Authoring with Cheaper Program like neoDVD or SpruceUp?

digitalvideo · #1 06-10-2002, 09:16 AM

ok heres my problem i want to use you KDVD template but not all of us can afford this lavish expensive program

could you please tell me how i can do this with a cheaper program like NeoDVD or spruce up i know i am cheap but i want to use your template more cheaply you see this program is more expensive than my computer any help would be greatly appreciated kwag

you never cease to amaze me i am thinking this template could save me a bunch of money if i could use it and your other templates were great quality especially for a cd i am think ing of getting the Sanyo CRD-DV1 simply because i could get one KDVD movie onto a cd by the way have you ever tried putting the video on a cd using your new template thank you for all the great templates because of you i no longer use DivX

kwag · #2 06-10-2002, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by digitalvideo

ok heres my problem i want to use you KDVD template but not all of us can afford this lavish expensive program

could you please tell me how i can do this with a cheaper program like NeoDVD or spruce up i know i am cheap but i want to use your template more cheaply you see this program is more expensive than my computer any help would be greatly appreciated kwag

you never cease to amaze me i am thinking this template could save me a bunch of money if i could use it and your other templates were great quality especially for a cd i am think ing of getting the Sanyo CRD-DV1 simply because i could get one KDVD movie onto a cd by the way have you ever tried putting the video on a cd using your new template thank you for all the great templates because of you i no longer use DivX

Hey thanks digitalvideo!

I don't use DivX either

I tried NeoDVD, but it doesn't work It always re-encodes the video. So there's something in the mpeg that it doesn't like. I thing it's the CQ or the GOP size. In NeoDVD the GOP size has to be 15, no matter if it's a PAL or NTSC DVD.
I haven't tried SpruceUp, because I don't have it. If you have it, give it a shot!

kwag

digitalvideo · #3 06-10-2002, 12:19 PM

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/vi...s/spruceup.cfm you can find spruceup here i have downloaded this and it has worked great for me but to use your template with this software would be even better please download it and test the dvd program see i am cheap and use this shareware all the time with my encoded streams from tmpeg your help will be greatly appreciated

kwag · #4 06-10-2002, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by digitalvideo

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_tools/spruceup.cfm you can find spruceup here i have downloaded this and it has worked great for me but to use your template with this software would be even better please download it and test the dvd program see i am cheap and use this shareware all the time with my encoded streams from tmpeg your help will be greatly appreciated

Hi digitalvideo:

Surprise. Good news. IT WORKS!
I just created a 2 minute mpeg with the KDVD template and imported it with SpruceUp trial version. I created an .img and mounted it with Daemon tools 3.11 ( http://www.daemon-tools.com ) and viewed it in WinDVD. Perfect!.

kwag

digitalvideo · #5 06-11-2002, 12:23 PM

have you ever burnt it to a dvd and do you still get the DD audio i have burnt standard DVDs using the demo and nero. my question is do you still get the same audio doing it your way or does spruceup use standard 48khz audio and do you get a slightly lower filesize than 5 hours on a DVD using that audio ? and will the burnt DVD play also do you have to use mpeg 1 layer 2 48khz

kwag · #6 06-11-2002, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by digitalvideo

have you ever burnt it to a dvd and do you still get the DD audio i have burnt standard DVDs using the demo and nero. my question is do you still get the same audio doing it your way or does spruceup use standard 48khz audio and do you get a slightly lower filesize than 5 hours on a DVD using that audio ? and will the burnt DVD play also do you have to use mpeg 1 layer 2 48khz

The audio sampling is 48Khz, because thats the way it's set in the KDVD template. It's a DVD compliant template. But I selected 192Khz instead of 384Khz to save some space. I have played the DVD I burned in 4 different brands of standalone DVD players. Worked flawlessly on all!

kwag

Bud · #7 06-11-2002, 07:33 PM

Kwag

Just got a copy of SpruceUp and the Daemon Tools,, how do I use th Daemon Tools to put the KDVD file in SpruceUp? Would like to try to do tow complete movies this weekend as a test, I know MyDVD works on your template but will try SpruceUp, because MyDVD will not allow changes in teh audio files to make it smaller. Many thanks

Bud

kwag · #8 06-11-2002, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bud

Kwag

Just got a copy of SpruceUp and the Daemon Tools,, how do I use th Daemon Tools to put the KDVD file in SpruceUp? Would like to try to do tow complete movies this weekend as a test, I know MyDVD works on your template but will try SpruceUp, because MyDVD will not allow changes in teh audio files to make it smaller. Many thanks

Bud

Daemon tools mounts images files. You can save your DVD project to an image file with SpruceUp, instead of a physical DVD device. Then you mount this image, or virtual image as called, with the Daemon tools.
This way you can test it as if you had inserted a real DVD in the machine.

To create an image, go to Export source options in SpruceUp, and select image as an output. Then select the directory where you want to put it. This is the image file you mount with the Daemon tools.

kwag

digitalvideo · #9 06-12-2002, 09:54 AM

yeah kwag but i want to get slightly lower quality on the audio so i can fit 3 2 hour movies

digitalvideo · #10 06-12-2002, 10:04 AM

you said when you were posting that with DVDIT that you got dolby sound but if i use spruceup do i get the same sound as DVDIT would or would i get lower quality sound like other programs would when you import and i burn the Audio and video folders using nero would i get Dolby digital sound using spruce up or the original sound from the template

kwag · #11 06-12-2002, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by digitalvideo

you said when you were posting that with DVDIT that you got dolby sound but if i use spruceup do i get the same sound as DVDIT would or would i get lower quality sound like other programs would when you import and i burn the Audio and video folders using nero would i get Dolby digital sound using spruce up or the original sound from the template

I think that SpruceUp doesn't re-encode the audio. I took a look at a small encode I did, and viewed the folders produced by Spruce, and the file size of the mpeg is about 1MB larger than my original.
So SpruceUP doesn't re-encode anything. And I used the default options.

kwag

Bud · #12 06-12-2002, 12:09 PM

Kwag

Spruce Up Will accept various audio settings, if we made the change to the audio during the TMPGEnc conversion would that make a smaller file size?

Bud

kwag · #13 06-12-2002, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bud

Kwag

Spruce Up Will accept various audio settings, if we made the change to the audio during the TMPGEnc conversion would that make a smaller file size?

Bud

Yes it will. I just verified by de-muxing the VOB created by SpruceUp, and looking at the audio, and it is in fact 192Khz. Just the way I encoded it with the KDVD template.

kwag

Bud · #14 06-12-2002, 12:46 PM

The test i ran on Hollow Man (113 Min) gave me a 2.4 GB file with your original Template, so if I run this again and change the audio settings to something Spruce Up will accept this should give me a smaller file size, which should allow we to burn 2 movies on one DVD-R (4.7GB) providing the movies are not over 120 min. Now I jsut need to review what audio settings Spruce Up will accept and change the settig just prior to teh TMPGEnc conversion.

Bud