Avisynth: is this Script Still up to Date?

Anonymous · #1 12-26-2004, 01:30 PM

I'm always using the same script for ALL my encodes (DVD, Analogue TV/VHS Catures, etc.) to KDVD. Of course the quality veries a lot, but I'm just too lazy to make a script for each source. So I was wondering if this script is still ok...

Code:

converttoyv12()
BlindPP(cpu=4)
Blockbuster(method="noise",detail_min=1,detail_max=3,variance=0.1,seed=1)
Convolution3D(1, 6, 12, 6, 8, 2.8, 0)
DivXResize(WIDTH, HEIGHT, 0, "LanczosResize",WIDESCREEN)
Undot()
TemporalSoften(2,7,7,3,2)
DCTFilter(1,1,1,1,1,1,0.5,0)
Blockbuster(method="noise",detail_min=1,detail_max=10,variance=0.3,seed=5623)
DivXBorders(HEIGHT,OVERSCAN)
AddAudio()

If you think that it's outdated, please post also a link to the plugin I'm missing.

thx

kwag · #2 12-26-2004, 01:41 PM

The script is fine, but you won't see any more DivX/XviD discussions or support here, as we don't allow it any longer

-kwag

Dialhot · #3 12-26-2004, 01:48 PM

This script is nothing else than my Avi->KVCD V4 script adapted by VMesquita for Diko.

So that is two subjects, and not one, thatn we do not discuss anymore here.

Anonymous · #4 12-26-2004, 03:35 PM

Hm but I didn't ask about DivX!?

I just would like to improve the quality of my self-made(!) VHS-Rips.

kwag · #5 12-26-2004, 04:11 PM

Look here: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3483

-kwag

Anonymous · #6 12-26-2004, 04:29 PM

Nevermind, won't bother you again.

jeo · #7 12-26-2004, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WIZO

I'm always using the same script for ALL my encodes (DVD, Analogue TV/VHS Catures, etc.) to KDVD. Of course the quality veries a lot, but I'm just too lazy to make a script for each source.
thx

(DVD, Analogue TV/VHS Catures, etc.)
don't worry, i understood what you mean!

For VHS and captures:

unfilter(50,50)
GripCrop( X, Y )
GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")
STMedianFilter(8, 32, 0, 0, 8, 32)
FaeryDust() # or PixieDust()
mergechroma(blur(1.50))
mergeluma(blur(0.2))
# Convolution3d or DCTFilter for extreme worse cases.
GripBorders()

best scripts still very cool.
and download filters

take it easy!

kwag · #8 12-26-2004, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WIZO

Nevermind, won't bother you again.

You haven't bothered anyone

You just haven't read the forum rules

-kwag

Anonymous · #9 12-26-2004, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeo

Quote:

Originally Posted by WIZO

I'm always using the same script for ALL my encodes (DVD, Analogue TV/VHS Catures, etc.) to KDVD. Of course the quality veries a lot, but I'm just too lazy to make a script for each source.
thx

(DVD, Analogue TV/VHS Catures, etc.)
don't worry, i understood what you mean!

At least somebody did.

Of course I've seen that latest scripts sticky before, but I thought since it hasn't been updated for some time now, that it might be outdated.
Thanks for the filter link though.

incredible · #10 12-27-2004, 08:19 AM

Hey Wizo,

just post a pic of your VHS Source in the capture forum area and we can find/generate a nice script for your needs.

Willkommen im Forum
Gruß
Inc.

Anonymous · #11 12-27-2004, 09:47 AM

OK I'll do that, incredible.

Naja bin ja schon länger dabei. (Joined: 07 May 2002)

rds_correia · #12 12-27-2004, 09:54 AM

Yeah, Andrej

,
WIZO is with us for a very long time already.
He just hasn't shown up recently

.
But WIZO, you really should use different scripts for those different sources.
I'm not the one to tell you which scripts to use, because I only do DVD sources.
But when it comes to VHS/TV captures, you should find a more suitable script.
And you don't have to use DivxResize plugin, as long as GripFit works fine with your sources

But I guess Andrej will give you a hand on this one, much better than me

.
Cheers

Latexxx · #13 12-27-2004, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rds_correia

I'm not the one to tell you which scripts to use, because I only do DVD sources.

Which script do you use?

rds_correia · #14 12-27-2004, 01:15 PM

Here's the script I usually try on my DVD2KDVD encodes.

Code:

Mpeg2Source("path\movie.d2v")
ADS(72,72,1,Letterbox=false,Sharpen=3,Threshold=2,Qmask=false,show=false)

ADS is one of Andrej's functions http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....&highlight=ads.
Most of my encodes are 2 Anamorphic KDVD movies on one DVD with one AC3 5.1 English track and one subtitle track per movie.
Results are very good.
Cheers

Anerboda · #15 12-27-2004, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rds_correia

Here's the script I usually try on my DVD2KDVD encodes.

Code:

Mpeg2Source("path\movie.d2v")
ADS(72,72,1,Letterbox=false,Sharpen=3,Threshold=2,Qmask=false,show=false)

ADS is one of Andrej's functions http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....&highlight=ads.
Most of my encodes are 2 Anamorphic KDVD movies on one DVD with one AC3 5.1 English track and one subtitle track per movie.
Results are very good.
Cheers

Are you still using NuEnc?
If so, it's the same script and encoder I use. I use NuEnc in CQ mode, with great results...

-Anerboda

rds_correia · #16 12-27-2004, 03:11 PM

Hi Anerboda

Yes, I have been using Peter Cheat's NuEnc along with Andrej's ADS function with very good results.
The problem is, lately I have done some comparison tests that you can find here and as you see, Tmpg has an edge over NuEnc.
Take a look at that post and tell me what you think

Cheers

Anerboda · #17 12-27-2004, 04:40 PM

I did some tests myself, and I find the CQ to low in TMPGEnc, when targetting the same size; mainly 2 movies on one DVD-R. But when I use NuEnc, I often can use a CQ=100 and still fit two movies in one DVD-R...

Have you tried to encode the same two movies in both NuEnc and TMPGEnc to fit one DVD-R in MPEG-2, and compared the final encodes?
Maybe you have, and I just didn't read your result, sorry my bad

I do all my encodes from DVD source, using min bitrate=500, max bitrate=9000 ADS function from Inc. and very often ending with a CQ=100 in NuEnc and still the compile is undersized!!

Movie time is between 3½ to 4 hours for both movies!

-Anerboda

rds_correia · #18 12-27-2004, 05:08 PM

@Anerboda
Well, I don't like to go too much off-topic, but I'll explain it to you.
I ran a set of tests comparing Tmpg 2.524 and NuEnc 0.01b.
For that set of tests I didn't use any Avisynth filtering or resize.
I just set a Letterbox() command to make my desired overlap overscan.
Then I encoded a small video clip on Tmpg using the KDVD Full-D1 template.
That template is set for minbitrate=300, Maxbitrate=5000 and CQ=70.
I wrote down the final filesize of the encode.
Then I took NuEnc, set it for CQ mode with min=300, Max=5000 and CQ=85.
I didn't end up with the same filesize.
So I reencoded with NuEnc with different CQ values to reach Tmpg's filesize.
Then, for the sake of it, I did a 2-pass VBR encode with NuEnc.
Of course, first I calculated the average bitrate to end up with the same filesize that Tmpg in CQ mode ended up with.
So I have 3 files:
-1 Tmpg CQ mode
-1 NuEnc CQ mode
-1 NuEnc 2-pass VBR mode
All with the same filesize and no Avisynth filtering to mess up the comparison.
Results:
-NuEnc is marginally faster than Tmpg, when set for 2-pass mode
-NuEnc is way faster than Tmpg, when set for CQ mode
-NuEnc output looks worst than Tmpg, either in CQ or in 2-pass modes
-Tmpg's output is "darker" than the Original DVD or NuEnc's output
-NuEnc's output is identical to the original in terms of brighteness/darkness
I feel like NuEnc can go much better than this but I don't know how.
Tests ran on Mencoder prooved that Mencoder output is identical to Tmpg and it is based on ffmpeg's libavcodec

just like NuEnc.
I'm completely confused

.
You should try it yourself.
Cheers

Anerboda · #19 12-27-2004, 06:00 PM

Damn, (excuse my french, no offend Phil) I thought you had the golden clues to how to make the perfect encode, but I'm just as confused as you are...

I think we're at the same level of our backups; the best quality and the best compliance.... correct me if I'm wrong...!

What you're saying; even with a lower CQ in TMPGEnc the video looks better than with NuEnc for the same file size?

Sorry for being off topic...

-Anerboda

rds_correia · #20 12-27-2004, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anerboda

What you're saying; even with a lower CQ in TMPGEnc the video looks better than with NuEnc for the same file size?

Yes, Anerboda.
And there's nothing wrong in having two different encoders providing same filesize with different CQ values.
CQ is not really a standard.
The problem is

having the same filesize and different quality.
NuEnc should look as good as Tmpg but it doesn't

For some reason.
Say, let's finish the off-topic.
If you'd like to discuss it further, drop by the NuEnc part of the forum

Off-topic out

Cheers