Avisynth: Great Quality and Great Compression?

Jellygoose · #1 11-23-2003, 02:53 PM

These are the important things a Great denoiser should imply in my opnion... I tried many many many in the last days, and the one that still does the best job for me is:

PixieDust()

For a movie where you seek the best quality/compression possible I'm yet to find a better denoiser... It's rather strong, so you ought to put it before resizing. This also requires more time, but it's worth it, especially when you resize to smaller resolutions afterwards (352xxxx).
The only thing that bothers. That filter is awful slow and it seems that the Dust Filters are not being developed any further...

Here comes the question... What filter do you guys think denoises better or as good as PixieDust() and is a little faster? Just give your opinions, I'd love to try them all out!

Encoder Master · #2 11-23-2003, 03:00 PM

I think the Avisynth 2.5x Filters are faster and better I think. Undot, Temporal soften or like this.

I think they are better than Pixie Dust().

Dialhot · #3 11-23-2003, 03:27 PM

And you're right Encode Master. Let's the past in the past. We are at 2.5.3 now. Deen for instance can superseed PixieDust in several ways.

Encoder Master · #4 11-23-2003, 03:28 PM

And first the speed. It's realy good.

Jellygoose · #5 11-23-2003, 03:38 PM

I too would like to use a AVS 2.5 Filter instead...

Give me a good Deen-Setting for Noise-Removal without blurring effect and I'll test it against PixieDust() !
I searched for this a long time now...

Abond · #6 11-23-2003, 04:06 PM

I think you have a point, Jelly. I have seen a talk in doom forums about the fact that Steady (the autor of Dust) was intended to release it as commercial software (fully completed). Well, most (if not all

) filters for avisynth 2.5.X are alpha, or in best case beta releases

.

clickit · #7 11-23-2003, 04:33 PM

and now there is AviSynth 2.5.4 alpha

http://cultact-server.novi.dk/kpo/avisynth/avs_cvs.html

Abond · #8 11-23-2003, 04:41 PM

I have seen it before two days. Well, I think sh0dan knows what he is doing. When it will be ready he will release it

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Dialhot · #9 11-23-2003, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jellygoose

Give me a good Deen-Setting for Noise-Removal without blurring

Just make you own tests using "a2d" as matrix (spatial only filtering).

For instance :

Code:

deen("a2d",2,8,10)

Jellygoose · #10 11-23-2003, 06:06 PM

Sorry Phil, I can't agree...

All I can say is that Deen is giving me an "ugly" noise reduction (blurriness and pulsing picture), instead of a "clean" noise removal (stable picture, preserved details) by PixieDust(). To me this filter is magic, and it's a shame it's closed source...

Abond · #11 11-23-2003, 06:16 PM

maybe "m2d"?

Boulder · #12 11-24-2003, 04:15 AM

I'd give MipSmooth or VagueDenoiser a shot too.

audioslave · #13 01-11-2004, 04:59 PM

Hi Jellygoose!
I've been experimenting some with PixieDust(), in both static scripts and MA scripts. Have you come up with a good script (with PixieDust) for a standard, nice and clean, DVD rip? Would be interesting to see...

MrTibs · #14 02-16-2004, 11:18 AM

You may try NoMoSmooth for 2.5. IMHO NoMo has not gotten the respect it deserves. In some cases, I've used it instead of Pixie.