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But it is win2k fully compatible with PC games?
And with multiple monitor system?
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If I do understand you right ....

a multiple Monitorsystem depends on the right HardwarePciCard(s) and their drivers compatible with Win2k. Almost all Graphic cards do support in their drivers Win2k, so thats not an issue. Even the old very good matrox G400 ones.

And Gaming?! Well I'm not a gamer at all but AFAIK if you got the latest DirectX installed and full working drivers (as mentioned above) then this would be no issue.
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02-11-2005, 09:08 AM
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I confirm that I can play with Doom3 and Rome Total War (two very recent games) on my win2000 equiped laptop.
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I am sorry to say that we (the company where I work for) have recently received an email from Microsoft recommending us to move on to XP and 2003.
They emailed us because we had sent them a purchase order of 10 x W2K Pro licenses.
They told us that W2K lifecycle is reaching it's end and that they should stop W2K support during this year.
I don't have to say that from then on "bye bye" Service Packs (which already stoped) and security updates, do I?
All in all, it's a very good piece of an OS.
2003 is bloated of too many features we don't really need and it turns out to be slower on our old dual PIII servers.
I'll miss it.
Just thought I should let you know.
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02-11-2005, 12:18 PM
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They told us that W2K lifecycle is reaching it's end and that they should stop W2K support during this year.
We (Nortel Comany) also use W2K on our laptop (that are rented with winXP but the OS is immediatly changed when the PC arrive ). I guess that this is why I also saw this news somewhere.
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02-11-2005, 01:02 PM
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We (Nortel Comany) also use W2K on our laptop (that are rented with winXP but the OS is immediatly changed when the PC arrive ). I guess that this is why I also saw this news somewhere.
When I said we, I meant Papelaco - Avaya Silver Business Partner.
Then that means you are our competitor and I ain't talking to you never again .
Just kidding you
Nevertheless we have already moved on most of our desktop PCs to WinXP but some of them need to remain with W2K due to software incompatibility issues detected a long time ago with our ERP software.
On the server side we'll keep working with W2K for a very long time.
But we'll start some testing with 2003 by mid this year.
After all we will keep on needing the security updates...
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Finaly I updated my PC with this configuration:

AMD64 3200+ 939
Gigabyte GA-K8NS Ultra-939
1024 Mb RAM DDR
HDD 160 Gb
GeForce4 ti4200 128
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I have some questions:

1 - Start up is slow, it is normal (I mean before load WinXP)?
2 - In start up screen, it shows CPU clock = 200 Mhz. What is it? Is this ok?
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02-25-2005, 02:09 PM
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Finaly I updated my PC with this configuration:

AMD64 3200+ 939
Gigabyte GA-K8NS Ultra-939
1024 Mb RAM DDR
HDD 160 Gb
GeForce4 ti4200 128
Pinnacle AV-DV

I have some questions:

1 - Start up is slow, it is normal (I mean before load WinXP)?
2 - In start up screen, it shows CPU clock = 200 Mhz. What is it? Is this ok?
No, it isn't. AMD64 3200+ has FSB at 400 MHz, so something is incorrectly set up ...

Saludos,
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02-25-2005, 02:29 PM
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Video card clock ?
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Originally Posted by Prodater64
Finaly I updated my PC with this configuration:

AMD64 3200+ 939
Gigabyte GA-K8NS Ultra-939
1024 Mb RAM DDR
HDD 160 Gb
GeForce4 ti4200 128
Pinnacle AV-DV

I have some questions:

1 - Start up is slow, it is normal (I mean before load WinXP)?
2 - In start up screen, it shows CPU clock = 200 Mhz. What is it? Is this ok?
No, it isn't. AMD64 3200+ has FSB at 400 MHz, so something is incorrectly set up ...

Saludos,
If the CPU speed is correct, the CPU clock is also correct. With all the different buses, it could actually be 2x200=400.

I suggest you check the BIOS settings, the definite answer is found there.

Slow startup might be caused by initializing SATA/RAID devices even if there are none. If you don't have any, you can disable SATA in BIOS which will make booting faster.
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02-26-2005, 08:04 AM
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If the CPU speed is correct, the CPU clock is also correct. With all the different buses, it could actually be 2x200=400.

I suggest you check the BIOS settings, the definite answer is found there.

Slow startup might be caused by initializing SATA/RAID devices even if there are none. If you don't have any, you can disable SATA in BIOS which will make booting faster.
I already was check the bios, but I didn't understand.
It shows cpu overclock value = 200 and AGP port = 66.
No other site shows 200 Mhz as value.
I still don't understand if that value (200) is ok or not.

GA-K8NS Pro-939

http://www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard...Socket+939.htm

http://www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard...%20Pro-939.htm
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02-26-2005, 08:14 AM
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Download and install CPU-Z. See what that program shows.

EDIT: I am quite positive that 200MHz is the correct value.
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02-26-2005, 08:31 AM
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EDIT: I am quite positive that 200MHz is the correct value.
Hmmm, I think that you've reason. 400 MHz only if there is DDR memories working in Dual Channel mode (400 = 2 x 200 MHz in this case) ...

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02-26-2005, 08:35 AM
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And that's not actually 2x200MHz. It's 128bit (dual channel) vs. 64bit (single channel) and the difference isn't 100%

With AMD's latest processors, HTT is the multiplier which adjusts the memory bus speed. With Intel's processors it's usually 4x (533=133x4, 800=200x4).
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And that's not actually 2x200MHz. It's 128bit (dual channel) vs. 64bit (single channel) and the difference isn't 100%

With AMD's latest processors, HTT is the multiplier which adjusts the memory bus speed. With Intel's processors it's usually 4x (533=133x4, 800=200x4).
Really? Living and learning!

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02-26-2005, 10:44 AM
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That's true..it's very hard to keep up with the technique so I could be wrong as well

Dual channel is a nice thing to have if you use memory-intensive applications, and video processing is one of those. With them it gives a good boost, in other apps probably ~5% compared to single channel mode.
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