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06-16-2004, 07:04 PM
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Here is an update to my files: original, encoded at 23.976 with pulldown, and 29.97.

Original: http://www.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=4...70577A85A2700D

23.976 with pulldown: http://www.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=D...EFD47F25938E46

29.97: http://www.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=C...E36C17072789AC

EDIT: Forgot about your other questions...

One point where I can really see the jerkiness is when the camera is panning down towards the "Road Closed" sign. In the original and 29.97, it is smooth, in the 23.976, the moving of the camera is not smooth, it is choppy as it pans down. Another time when I notice the jerkiness is very noticeable is when the "Universal" words are coming around the globe, same thing as above, the original and 29.97 are smooth, where the other is not.

No, I'm not using a script. I'm using TMPGEnc XPress, all standard settings except for the matrix and GOP, which I changed to the KDD standards
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I'll test you samples tonight at home but some quick question :

- as your source is 23.976, how did you do the "real" 29.970 encoding ? Just let tmpgenc do the job ?

- did you try to generate a 23.976 with no pulldown ? Is it stable ? If yes can you try to use pulldown.exe on it and watch the result ?

- did you have the same problem in tmpgenc 2.5 ?
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06-17-2004, 08:52 AM
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Quote:
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- as your source is 23.976, how did you do the "real" 29.970 encoding ? Just let tmpgenc do the job ?
Yes, I just let TMPGEnc do it.

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- did you try to generate a 23.976 with no pulldown ? Is it stable ? If yes can you try to use pulldown.exe on it and watch the result ?
No, I have not, I'll try that when I get some time later and post the results.


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- did you have the same problem in tmpgenc 2.5 ?
Whenever I try to do it in 2.5 I get "write error occurred at address 77F83AED of module 'ntdll.dll' with 00000000"
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06-17-2004, 09:40 AM
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Whenever I try to do it in 2.5 I get "write error occurred at address 77F83AED of module 'ntdll.dll' with 00000000"
That let suppose that you have a problem in the direcX install and I let you guess what is generally used by MPEG2 decoder when you read a video ?
DirectDraw3D... in other words DirectX !

Perhaps your jerkiness that I can't see on my PC find its source there also...

(you never answered to me or I missed the answers : which is the MPEG codec used on you PC ? Does your player use the hardware acceleration of your card or not ?).

Note: it's true that you told me you have also the probleme on your standalone and I don't think it is related to directX this time
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06-17-2004, 04:21 PM
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I have the xVid codec 1.01

I also have DivX 3 codec installed. I have also installed the Nimo Codec Pack.
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06-17-2004, 07:16 PM
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I ask you the codec used for reading a MPEG2 and you give me what is used for Divx and Xvid

I don't know what is in the nimo blah blah blah... sorry. Only you can tell what is on your machine.

I check again just know, there is no jerkiness in the small sample you provided (BTW the scene with the "closed road" sign is not there ) except in the universal logo but the source also has jerkiness in this scene.

Sorry but I can't help you find something I don't see. Stop using tmpgenc 3.0 perhaps or use pulldown.exe. There is no other solution for you as nobody suffer any jerkiness with these two "old" tools.

Edit: if I really want to find a jerkiness, I can find a little one in the middle of the scene, just when they jump down the truck. If that is what you have detected more in the scene taht is after so the only solution is DEFINITELY stop using tmpgenc3.0. Because if you look at the scene frame by frame you will find some DISTORTED frames just before this jerkiness. And that is definitely NOT normal
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