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06-22-2004, 07:06 PM
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Can anybody post a guide to make a KDVD using DVD2SVCD?
(if it can be done)

I also wanted to know how to burn all three movies in one DVD+R, and about how long will the whole process take including encoding time?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeKuid
Can anybody post a guide to make a KDVD using DVD2SVCD?
(if it can be done)

I also wanted to know how to burn all three movies in one DVD+R, and about how long will the whole process take including encoding time?

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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr...............

I just answered to that in private and you double post here ?
Do you think people don't have other things to do than answering to you ?
And do you READ them ?
You already asked that here :
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....ghlight=#86701

Read the answer to your question number 1, 2 and 3 !
Why do you still ask it ? I already answered to that

I'm really on the edge to just close this thread. I'm let it just for the first question (even if I lost my time to answer to you in private that DVD2SVCD is not exactly a tool to do KDVD).

You REALLY start very badly your time on the forum...
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06-22-2004, 07:38 PM
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on the contrary -dvd2svcd is a great tool for kvcd, skvcd and kdvd!

i recommend it with d2sroba plugin - input the kvcd matrix into dvd2svcd, use version 2.67 or cce, use either FitCd or Facar, and EITHER the Adaptive Filter (MA Script) or Divx Filter... Copy Paste the crop n resize part of script, and come out with a perfect script.

Also for three movie KDVD.. in d2s choose avi/dvd to dvd, and the d2sroba plugin will make u restart it, wen restarted d2sroba input the size of the video, in your terms - 4.35 GB Dvd with 3 movies

therefore 4.35GB / 3 = 1.45 GB per movie!

Enter tht as the media size

Look to this guide, its for kvcd, but u'll see easily how to make a kdvd

www.asimshah.ho8.com/kvcdguides

Hope it helps, if it does not, then just post a reply, and i'll make a guide asap.

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Quote:
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on the contrary -dvd2svcd is a great tool for kvcd, skvcd and kdvd!
I know. I just put a part of the answer I gave in private and this part doesn't allow you to understand my idea

DVD2SVCD allows to do the VIDEOS (the mpegs) that you will fit on a KDVD with an authoring tool (dvdlab or other..). But you can't do the DVD directly with it, like you can do for a KVCD for instance.
(Unless last realease of DVD2SVCD includes a DVD authoring programm ?)

That's what I wanted to say (and had, in private).
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06-22-2004, 08:13 PM
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Oh Sorry My Mistake...

I thut u meant its not good for kvcd ksvcd or kdvd, sorry..

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Don't worry.

BTW, I think that if you were suggesting you can do a guide using Roba method, it will be usefull for anyone.
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i'll be right on it 2moro, busy right now, i will post the guide, with full instructions n images.

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...will work like a charm cos i always do 2 and 3 movies for Kdvd and get perfect results.
i'm very sad that i can't post that guide in english to help the friends here.
please bazzy, do it for us all! thanks in advance!
Phil, thanks for the idea!
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Hello bazzy2004, well thank you very much for the guide , it seems very easy to follow but I have a few questions:

1. I'm trying to a KDVD but I don't see an option on the program, what do I do?



I think I made a KVCD 720X480/576, the picture was just fine but at the beggening and at the end when there was the tiltle and the credits the letters just kept on blinking and where on different part of the screen,

2. How do I fix this problem?

3. Why does the SKVCD have an extra "S" is it better than a regular KVCD? If so why does it have a lower resolution?



I reinstalled the DVD2SVCD to see if the problem will get fix, but now the MA script reads like this:



0=nf=0
1=GripCrop(^TargetWidth, ^TargetHeight+^BorderTop+^BorderBottom, overscan=^overscan, source_anamorphic=^source_ana, dest_anamorphic=^dest_ana)
2=GripSize(resizer="BiCubicResize")
3=Undot()
4=Asharp(1, 4)
5=STMedianFilter(^S_FilterThreshHold, ^S_EdgeThreshHold, 0, 0 )
6=MergeChroma(blur(^blur_chroma))
7=MergeLuma(blur(^blur_luma))
8=SwitchThreshold = (Width<=352) ? 4 : (Width<=480) ? 3 : 2
9=ScriptClip("nf = round(YDifferenceToNext())"+chr(13)+ "((nf >= SwitchThreshold) && (nf < ^scdtrigger)) ? unfilter(-(fmin(nf*2,100)),-(fmin(nf*2,100))) : TemporalCleaner(6+nf,11+nf) ")
10=GripBorders()
11=function fmin(int f1, int f2) { return (f1<f2) ? f1 : f2 }
12=function ConvertToYUY2(clip c){ return isYV12(c) ? c : convertToYV12(c) }
13=# Import(!PreResize.avs)
14=Import(!FACAR.avs)
15=# Import(!PostResize.avs)
16=Undot()
17=Asharp(1, 4)
18=STMedianFilter(^S_FilterThreshHold, ^S_EdgeThreshHold, 0, 0 )
19=MergeChroma(blur(^blur_chroma))
20=MergeLuma(blur(^blur_luma))
21=SwitchThreshold = (Width<=352) ? 4 : (Width<=480) ? 3 : 2
22=ScriptClip("nf = round(YDifferenceToNext())"+chr(13)+ "((nf >= SwitchThreshold) && (nf < ^scdtrigger)) ? unfilter(-(fmin(nf*2,100)),-(fmin(nf*2,100))) : TemporalCleaner(6+nf,11+nf) ")
23=function fmin(int f1, int f2) { return (f1<f2) ? f1 : f2 }
24=function ConvertToYUY2(clip c){ return isYV12(c) ? c : convertToYV12(c) }
25=# Import(!PreResize.avs)
26=Import(!FACAR.avs)
27=# Import(!PostResize.avs)
28=Undot()
29=Asharp(1, 4)
30=STMedianFilter(^S_FilterThreshHold, ^S_EdgeThreshHold, 0, 0 )
31=MergeChroma(blur(^blur_chroma))
32=MergeLuma(blur(^blur_luma))
33=SwitchThreshold = (Width<=352) ? 4 : (Width<=480) ? 3 : 2
34=ScriptClip("nf = round(YDifferenceToNext())"+chr(13)+ "((nf >= SwitchThreshold) && (nf < ^scdtrigger)) ? unfilter(-(fmin(nf*2,100)),-(fmin(nf*2,100))) : TemporalCleaner(6+nf,11+nf) ")
35=function fmin(int f1, int f2) { return (f1<f2) ? f1 : f2 }
36=function ConvertToYUY2(clip c){ return isYV12(c) ? c : convertToYV12(c) }
^overscan=1
^source_ana=true
^dest_ana=false
^S_FilterThreshHold=8
^S_EdgeThreshHold=32
^blur_chroma=1.58
^blur_luma=0.1
^scdtrigger=30
!PreResize.avs=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth2.5 Plugins\FACAR\PreResize.avs
!FACAR.avs=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth2.5 Plugins\FACAR\FACAR.avs
!PostResize.avs=C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth2.5 Plugins\FACAR\PostResize.avs


4. Can you post the original MA script? Or is this normal and should just go to the next step?

5. Is the giude that you are posting tomorrow will help us with the kDVD?


Thank you so much, and sorry for all of my questions.
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06-23-2004, 01:09 PM
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1 - to make a kdvd - just need to select conversion to dvd - in misc tab apart frm tht u also need to select the kvcd notch matrix in the matrix section, and ure set to go.

three resolutions are supported i suggest u stick to them -
cvd - 352 x 480/576
vcd - 352 x 240/288
dvd - 720 x 480/576

2 - i have experienced this also, but i have no idea why - but i dont mind it,its only credits

3 skvcd is like svcd. simple. kvcd - vcd... skvcd - svcd... kdvd - dvd

4 the scripts -

[AVISYNTH_Divx Filter]
0=BlindPP(cpu=4)
1=Blockbuster(method="noise",detail_min=1,detail_m ax=3,variance=0.1,seed=1)
2=Convolution3D(1, 6, 12, 6, 8, 2.8, 0)
3=GripCrop(^TargetWidth, ^TargetHeight+^BorderTop+^BorderBottom, overscan=^overscan, source_anamorphic=^source_ana, dest_anamorphic=^dest_ana)
4=GripSize(resizer="^resizer")
5=Undot()
6=TemporalSoften(2,7,7,3,2)
7=DCTFilter(1,1,1,1,1,1,0.5,0)
8=GripBorders()
9=function ConvertToYUY2(clip c){ return isYV12(c) ? c : convertToYV12(c) }
^overscan=1
^source_ana=false
^dest_ana=false
^resizer=LanczosResize

[AVISYNTH_Adaptative Filter]
0=nf=0
1=GripCrop(^TargetWidth, ^TargetHeight+^BorderTop+^BorderBottom, overscan=^overscan, source_anamorphic=^source_ana, dest_anamorphic=^dest_ana)
2=GripSize(resizer="BiCubicResize")
3=Undot()
4=Asharp(1, 4)
5=STMedianFilter(^S_FilterThreshHold, ^S_EdgeThreshHold, ^T_FilterThreshHold, ^T_EdgeThreshHold )
6=MergeChroma(blur(^blur_chroma))
7=MergeLuma(blur(^blur_luma))
8=SwitchThreshold = (Width<=352) ? 4 : (Width<=480) ? 3 : 2
9=ScriptClip(" nf = YDifferenceToNext()" +chr(13)+ "unfilter( -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)), -(fmin(round(nf)*2, 100)) ).TemporalSoften( fmin( round(2/nf), 6), round(1/nf), round(3/nf) , 1, 1) ")
10=GripBorders()
11=function fmin(int f1, int f2) { return (f1<f2) ? f1 : f2 }
12=function ConvertToYUY2(clip c){ return isYV12(c) ? c : convertToYV12(c) }
^overscan=1
^source_ana=true
^dest_ana=false
^S_FilterThreshHold=3
^S_EdgeThreshHold=3
^T_FilterThreshHold=1
^T_EdgeThreshHold=1
^blur_chroma=1.58
^blur_luma=0.1
^scdtrigger=30

u will have to start with a fresh one everytime. and edit it.

hope it helps

Bazzy

ps i am nearly finished with the kdvd guide. u can have upto 5 in one
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06-23-2004, 02:16 PM
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KDVD GUIDE IS OUT!
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www.asimshah.ho8.com/kvcdguides

click on the big KDVD GUIDE link
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Thank you very much for the guide bazzy2004 but I was wondering if it could also be do with TMPGEnc and if so, can you please tell me how?

Also on the guide I did not see how to put all the movies together if is not a lot of trouble, can you please tell me how?
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1 - D2SRoBa cannot be used with TMPGEnc, but u can use the KVCD D2S Plugin

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5417

Dont use KVCD MPEG 1 templates, you will just run into problems with authoring. Use SKVCD, 352 x 480 i recommend totally compatible with dvd. use 480 x 480 for svcd compliant only, but u can patch it to make it dvd compatible.

After u have made the elementry streams for each movie u do. for eg.

Movie 1 - encoded at the size of 2000 - u have 2 elementry streams :

Encoded_Audio_1.xxx
Encoded_Video_1_NTSC/PAL.xxx

I suggest u rename these files - movie_ 1_audio.xxx & movie_1_video.xxx

You move these files into a seperate directory. And Start Encoding the next movie. At the size fo 2000.

Movie 2 - Another 2 elementry streams

Encoded_Audio_1.xxx
Encoded_Video_1_NTSC/PAL.xxx

After You have both Movies, in elementry streams then author the movie in TMPGEnc DVD Author - Easiest one to use, quick n fast, with menus.
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i would just go 2/3 sections up from this one and start reading up on diko which is a lot easier to handle then using dvd2svcd for kdvd. diko can convert 1/2/3+ dvd(s) to ready to burn ifo/vob files.
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DIKO is exelent. can do easy like you posted cw_uk.
but i have my preference and i love D2s. i can do "miracles" doing kvcds,skvcds and kdvds with this tool using CCe or Tmpgenc. i do different but seamless the great bazzys guide a long time and maybe one day i will post my way(my english stills horrible) and the result is always wonderful. believe, D2SRoba(CCE) give perfect final Kdvds sizes using 2 or 3 movies(and i use the ac3 from source and not mp2) that "perfect" final size for Kdvds is the first advantage for me in D2s(with Roba)!
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