Thanks Phil - made me investigate further - I'm glad

After looking at everything ,and my problems I went over to redo this again -http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16709 - and see that because my folder was not named K as in guide I was never able to use the avi reader. I did not understand scripts, this was easier to rename than to retype the scripts. I still had all other boxes checked. also started using paranoia.

All seems to be working a lot better as far as pic quality. I am a beginner, and I realize this guide is for advanced people, but I do believe I am overcoming these obstacles pretty quickly.

At first I thought the calculations were to make a cbr - that is why I did that. Now however, since I have correct set up I can see how it really works. Only real problem was tryin to find a download for the sampler-2.5.ddl.

For those looking for it I found it here - -

http://www.incredible.de.tf/Downloads/Sampler-2.5.rar - it's working for me

using the following guide:

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic....t=simple+guide
I have an (A) number of 96 and a (B) number of 644 after subtracting for audio - doing conversion I am at .149 average? This is where I get lost - not sure how to figure sample average out. I find myself redoing a file over until I tweek it just right. Takes too long. My sampler has 360 frames and is exactly 1.00 mb in size when done.

This is what I am doing - took total frames 161,669 and divided it by 360 frames = 449.08 used this number to multiply by my sample size .Miv file to see what total would be - then added the mp2 file to get close to 700Mb

adjusted the rate control mode accordingly. end up here-MPEG-1 352x240 23.976fps CQ 79 test comes out to 1.18MB - waiting for the full on to finish to see if I did it right. Seems like a lot of math however easy to get the final solution.

Just completed at MPEG-1 352x240 23.976fps CQ 78 - and total is 504MB .miv Plus my mp2 file of 156Mb = 660MB - and after muxxing the final is 670Mb. Quality is bad,much better and very clear using the following format directly from my noiseless avi, without using scrips - MPEG-1 704x480 23.976fps CQ 60. if I use the 352 x 240 it doesn't fit on screen. Guess there is some tweeking to be done if I wan't to use scripts. just need to figure that rate control at sampler completion.

I'm doing it wrong somehow, if you could help me with the correct equation I would appreciate it.

p.s. been doing this straight all day, but I think I almost got it.

Thanks for help.