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Hy Guys,
I've a question about the DVD Spezification like you can see in the Topic.
Say me if I'm right or wrong
352x288; MPEG-1 (also MPEG-2)?; 1,8 Mbps; 4:3 (Also 16:9?),
352x576; MPEG-2 (also MPEG-1)?; 9,8 Mbps; 4:3 (Also 16:9?),
704x576; MPEG-2 (also MPEG-1)?; 9,8 Mbps; 16:9 & 4:3,
720x576; MPEG-2 (also MPEG-1)?; 9,8 Mbps; 16:9 & 4:3,
I hope I haven't miss something. THX.
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Hy Guys,
I've a question about the DVD Spezification like you can see in the Topic.
Say me if I'm right or wrong
352x288; MPEG-1 (also MPEG-2)?; 1,8 Mbps; 4:3 (Also 16:9?),
352x576; MPEG-2 (also MPEG-1)?; 9,8 Mbps; 4:3 (Also 16:9?),
704x576; MPEG-2 (also MPEG-1)?; 9,8 Mbps; 16:9 & 4:3,
720x576; MPEG-2 (also MPEG-1)?; 9,8 Mbps; 16:9 & 4:3,
I hope I haven't miss something. THX.
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MPEG-2, 525/60 (NTSC): 720x480, 704x480, 352x480, 352x240
MPEG-2, 625/50 (PAL): 720x576, 704x576, 352x576, 352x288
MPEG-1, 525/60 (NTSC): 352x240
MPEG-1, 625/50 (PAL): 352x288 not anamorphic.
http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#3.4
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So I can put all encodes in 16:9 and PAL 352x288 not?
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07-29-2004, 03:51 AM
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No, there is an error (either in the copy/paste from Pro or in the DVDDemystified) : VCD res CAN'T be anamorphic, both in NTSC or PAL.
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07-29-2004, 05:44 AM
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No, there is an error (either in the copy/paste from Pro or in the DVDDemystified) : VCD res CAN'T be anamorphic, both in NTSC or PAL.
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I'm sorry, was my fault.
I'm forget add test for this mpeg2 resolution, as in original test none of both was present.
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OK, thx for your answers.
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I don't know if I'm turning blind or something but I can't find any thread on recommended max. bitrate for KDVDs -> One movie/DVD, two movies/DVD etc. Also, I have forgot about the DVD compatible GOPs. Are they 15 for PAL and 18 for NTSC?
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all kvcd resolutions have worked for me with dvds, with various aspect ratios..
for eg..
320x240/288 - 4:3 mpeg 1 & 2
320x480/576 - 4:3 16:9 anamorphic mpeg 1 & 2
480x480/576 - 4:3 16:9 anamorphic mpeg 1 & 2*
528x480/576 - 4:3 16:9 anamorphic mpeg 1 & 2*
544x480/576 - 4:3 16:9 anamorphic mpeg 1 & 2*
704x480/576 - 4:3 16:9 anamorphic mpeg 1 & 2
720x480/576 - 4:3 16:9 anamorphic mpeg 1 & 2
* not dvd spec, but works
i would keep max bitrate at about 5000, average 4000, min 800.
i think u r right with the GOPs..
1 thing i got to say - dvd2svcd rules with cce and d2sroba.
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1 thing i got to say - dvd2svcd rules with cce and d2sroba.
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Only if you have 40GB of free disc space to do the process unfortunally
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08-03-2004, 04:23 AM
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1 thing i got to say - dvd2svcd rules with cce and d2sroba.
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I only mainly do KDVD's these days and I have to say that DIKO rules for this process especially when using CCE as the encoder.
It is the easiest program to use.
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It is the easiest program to use. 
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DVD-RB with last RB-OPT did by Sansgrip is so much better.
I did only one disc with it but I already start to be in love
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Hi Phil, I did look into DVD-RB but I haven't got around to testing it out yet.
I have downloaded SansGrip RB-OPT as well so I should try it.
DIKO for me still does a fine job and I usually author in DVD-Lab with pretty good quality.
@Phil
Can I do multipal DVD backup to one DVD with DVD-RB? If so then I must try this tool using CCE.
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Can I do multipal DVD backup to one DVD with DVD-RB? If so then I must try this tool using CCE.
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No. DVD-RB is for REAL DVD backups, that means when you really want to backup your original to put them back in a safebox while you are reading the copy. That copies all the DVD structure, menu and extras included.
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Oh wow! That is excellent news Phil.
I currently use DVDShrink to back up my DVD's, would you recommend DVD-RB with SansGrip's RB-OPT to back up my DVD's?
In your opinion is the quality better? I would appreciate any info that could help me out on my way.
Thanks again for the info Phil.
EDIT: What does it use to make the AC3 audio? BeSweet?
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I currently use DVDShrink to back up my DVD's, would you recommend DVD-RB with SansGrip's RB-OPT to back up my DVD's?
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DVDShrink when you have less than 15% to compress and no more than 30 minutes to do the work.
DVD-RB above 15% and/or several hours.
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In your opinion is the quality better? I would appreciate any info that could help me out on my way.
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How an encoding made with KVCD Matrix, using CCE in OPV mode, can be a lesser quality than a transcoding done by DVDShrink ?
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Excellent if it uses the KVCD matrix then the quality will be far superior to DVDShrink.
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dont need 40 gb, i have partitioned my hd, to 38gb, n max it uses it 11gb. thats max...
40gb, r u sure ?
4 - 8 gb rip
upto 5 sample tests - 40 to 60 mb each
final encode.
audio ripped 500mb
then dont do the multiplex (.bat trick in multiplexxer settings)
import the files into dvd lab pro
compile.. (by this time u can have deleted the main ripped vobs)
another 4 gb (but minus the deleted vobs)
how do you work out 40
with diko - i experienced too much trouble.. n its not very much customizable for my liking, dvd2svcd kicks ass for beginner or advanced imho.
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dont need 40 gb, i have partitioned my hd, to 38gb, n max it uses it 11gb. thats max...
40gb, r u sure ?
4 - 8 gb rip
upto 5 sample tests - 40 to 60 mb each
final encode.
audio ripped 500mb
then dont do the multiplex (.bat trick in multiplexxer settings)
import the files into dvd lab pro
compile.. (by this time u can have deleted the main ripped vobs)
another 4 gb (but minus the deleted vobs)
how do you work out 40 
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Because you are doing half of the job manually  (and as you say, at this point you can do a little clean up in the directory).
We are not talkign about doing things manually, do we ?
If you let the tool running all the process, you need :
6-8Gb for the source ripp
4.37 GB for the video and audio elementary streams
4.37 GB for the muxed mpeg
4.37 GB for the muxed mpeg with subtitles !
4.37 GB for the final authored disc.
That is 30GB (some line are mising there like space for ac3 files extracted form the vobs), not 40. The diff is really so important ?
Doing all manually I need half this size. With DVD-RB you need ripp+encoded+authored that is near 20. Still 10 GB less.
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Quote:
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That is 30GB (some line are mising there like space for ac3 files extracted form the vobs), not 40. The diff is really so important ?
Doing all manually I need half this size. With DVD-RB you need ripp+encoded+authored that is near 20. Still 10 GB less.
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Ist the diff really so important ? when you can use 120Gb or more HD.
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Because you are doing half of the job manually (and as you say, at this point you can do a little clean up in the directory).
We are not talkign about doing things manually, do we ?
If you let the tool running all the process, you need :
6-8Gb for the source ripp
4.37 GB for the video and audio elementary streams
4.37 GB for the muxed mpeg
4.37 GB for the muxed mpeg with subtitles !
4.37 GB for the final authored disc.
That is 30GB (some line are mising there like space for ac3 files extracted form the vobs), not 40. The diff is really so important ?
Doing all manually I need half this size. With DVD-RB you need ripp+encoded+authored that is near 20. Still 10 GB less.
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Wow that is a lot of Hard Drive space required when compared to CloneDVD or Shrink. I know the quality is better using the 'Notch' Matrix and DVD-RB but I wasn't aware it needed so much space.
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