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KDVD 704X480 VS 720X480?
I noticed that when set to normal speed@704x480 tmpgenc leaves little tiny jaggedy edges on characters in the final output m2v.
(1) What does everyone else use for KDVD? 720 or 704?
(2) Would encoding @ 704 be at all faster with tmpgenc set to normal?
(using the standard 3 or 4 line output AVS from Paranoia)
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I noticed that when set to normal speed@704x480 tmpgenc leaves little tiny jaggedy edges on characters in the final output m2v.
That's why we use "Fast" mode
You get less jaggedy edges (Gibbs effect)
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(1) What does everyone else use for KDVD? 720 or 704?
I use 704x
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(2) Would encoding @ 704 be at all faster with tmpgenc set to normal?
(using the standard 3 or 4 line output AVS from Paranoia)
Compared to high and highest quality settings, yes.
Also, because you are encoding less pixels (704x vs. 720x), your encoding speed will be faster.

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Is that what u use kwag? fast(low quality)?
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Is that what u use kwag? fast(low quality)?
No.
It's "Motion Estimate (fast)".
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I got afew of my buddies into kvcd & they use motion estimate fast & their movies sometimes look like the camera was vibrating as it was moving & recording, any1 farmiliar with this?
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I noticed that when set to normal speed@704x480 tmpgenc leaves little tiny jaggedy edges on characters in the final output m2v.
That's why we use "Fast" mode
You get less jaggedy edges (Gibbs effect)
-kwag

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Is that what u use kwag? fast(low quality)?
No.
It's "Motion Estimate (fast)".
Does it maintain same/near same video quality levels if you use Motion estimate search(fast) Vs High Quality(Slow) setting ????? apart from less Gibbs effects as stated by Kwag
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10-14-2005, 04:07 AM
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Does it maintain same/near same video quality levels if you use Motion estimate search(fast) Vs High Quality(Slow) setting ????? apart from less Gibbs effects as stated by Kwag
Yes it is except in some rare situations that are probably the ones Untouchable encountered.
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10-14-2005, 01:26 PM
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Does it maintain same/near same video quality levels if you use Motion estimate search(fast) Vs High Quality(Slow) setting ????? apart from less Gibbs effects as stated by Kwag
Yes it is except in some rare situations that are probably the ones Untouchable encountered.
That is a *really* good new to know!

The default KDVD templates @ http://www.kvcd.net/dvd-models.html are configured to "Highest"
I always used Motion estimate: High Precision (slow)

So it is a waste of time at all!

But what about the final file size ? Very/little difference ?

EDIT: Is 704x480 full dvd compliant ? I googled it and did not find 704x480 as standard:
http://erg.abdn.ac.uk/research/futur...deo/mpeg2.html
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The default KDVD templates @ http://www.kvcd.net/dvd-models.html are configured to "Highest"
No, I think they are "High"
(MPEG.Video.MotionSearchSpeed = MPEGVideoEncoder_MotionSearchSpeed_HighCQ)

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But what about the final file size ? Very/little difference ?
Files are 2-3% bigger in ME then in Hight.

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EDIT: Is 704x480 full dvd compliant ? I googled it and did not find 704x480 as standard:
http://erg.abdn.ac.uk/research/futur...deo/mpeg2.html
Do refer to the DVD bible when you need information :
http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html
(see point #3.4)
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10-14-2005, 02:42 PM
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Do refer to the DVD bible when you need information :
http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html
(see point #3.4)
God, this site is really good. I wish I have found it earlier! Sorry the pretty dumb question Dialhot!
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10-14-2005, 02:46 PM
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You're welcome. Take your seat in the classroom, the lesson continues
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