TMPGEnc: Why do Preview Window Scenes Already Look Blocky?

Jellygoose · #1 02-02-2003, 05:58 PM

Hi all...

I am still trying to get rid of my sudden problem that all my recent encodes look crappy... blocks and artifacts all over the place and I seriously don't know why... Already replaced everything with a new version, including MPEG2DEC...
Now what I see is that in the Preview window, the scenes already look blocky... does that mean that on the DVD there are blocks in these areas... What does the preview window show? input or output?

Edit: Ok just found out that the preview window shows the output... and it really sucks... I also see a green bar that appears sometimes on the very left of the movie... It's also there when viewed with WMP...
here's the script :

Code:

LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\MPEG2DEC2.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\dustv5.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\sampler.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\temporalcleanerold.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\gripfit_preview.dll")

Mpeg2Source("F:\Mord Nach Plan\mord.d2v")
ConvertToYuY2

LegalClip()

GripCrop (544, 576, Overscan=2)

SpaceDust()
TemporalCleaner()

Gripsize()

GripBorders
LegalClip()

Sampler(length=24)

ConvertToRGB24
## MPEG size = ((Total frames/MovieTimeInMinutes)/24) * MPEG sample file size ##

kwag · #2 02-02-2003, 07:05 PM

Why do you have ConvertToYuY2 AND ConvertToRGB24

Jellygoose · #3 02-03-2003, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag

Why do you have ConvertToYuY2 AND ConvertToRGB24

that was just some tests, because it sometimes seems that all this is some sort of color issue... it didn't change anything though...
hey kwag, this is really getting annoying... is there a way that I can upload a sample somewhere? or mail you one? i don't want to bomb your mailbox without asking though...
Or do you know where to upload samples for free?

kwag · #4 02-03-2003, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jellygoose

Or do you know where to upload samples for free?

Check this site: www.0catch.com

-kwag

Jellygoose · #5 02-03-2003, 12:21 PM

ok I'll upload the sample in a minute... PLEASE kwag help me and download the sample... just tell me what you think about that... the movie is "murder by numbers" which is 112 minutes long, and not high action at all... using KVCDx3 544x576 this movie should look far less blocky in my eyes...

i'll post the script used together with the sample in a second...

Jellygoose · #6 02-03-2003, 04:31 PM

0catch.com has a 1 MB File Limit for uploads...
can I just mail it? or do you know another webspace provider?

kwag · #7 02-03-2003, 08:09 PM

Just make your samples ~1MB

Jellygoose · #8 02-04-2003, 11:57 AM

Alright here we go...

http://www.angelfire.com/weird2/jell...rdersample.m1v

please take a look, this is making me go crazy...

Tell me a 112 minute low action movie should not look like this on one CD using KVCDx3 and this script :

Code:

LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\MPEG2DEC.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\dustv5.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\sampler.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\temporalcleanerold.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\gripfit_preview.dll")

Mpeg2Source("F:\Mord Nach Plan\mord.d2v")
LegalClip()

GripCrop (544, 576, Overscan=2)

Gripsize()

GripBorders()

SpaceDust()
TemporalCleaner()

LegalClip()

#Sampler(length=24)

## MPEG size = ((Total frames/MovieTimeInMinutes)/24) * MPEG sample file size ##

kwag · #9 02-04-2003, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jellygoose

Alright here we go...

http://www.angelfire.com/weird2/jell...rdersample.m1v

please take a look, this is making me go crazy...

Tell me a 112 minute low action movie should not look like this on one CD using KVCDx3 and this script :

Code:

LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\MPEG2DEC.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\dustv5.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\sampler.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\temporalcleanerold.dll")
LoadPlugin("E:\MPEG-Tools\FitCD\gripfit_preview.dll")

Mpeg2Source("F:\Mord Nach Plan\mord.d2v")
LegalClip()

GripCrop (544, 576, Overscan=2)

Gripsize()

GripBorders()

SpaceDust()
TemporalCleaner()

LegalClip()

#Sampler(length=24)

## MPEG size = ((Total frames/MovieTimeInMinutes)/24) * MPEG sample file size ##

Your script is wrong

. The order of the filters is like this:

Code:

Gripsize()
SpaceDust()
TemporalCleaner()
GripBorders()
LegalClip()

The sample doesn't look that bad at all! I renamed it to .mpg and used WinDVD. In WMP it looks like crap. Re-encode with the script correction above, and it will look much better, and never use WMP to judge quality

-kwag