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03-05-2003, 04:34 PM
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Hi you all,

I want to thank especially to Kwag, Black Prince, SansGrip, Donald Graft, you guy's are really professionals!!

I was searching such a long time for a method to produce real good VideoCD'S. I have a lot of old VHS Cassettes which I want to brought to VideoCD'S in good quality.
I read all your guides (especially that one from black prince, BIG THANXXX) an with my first try I get such a quality as output, I never seen before. And it work perfectly in all my DVD HW-Player's (have 3pcs)

Also I am a one CD Freak, and since I found you on the Net (2 Weeks ago) I produce also some premium DVD Copy's, (Blade 2, A Beautiful Mind,.... )

Here my way to do some real good CD'S, maybe I can help to somebody:

I am working with AviSynth 2.0.7 and Tmpeg 2.5.10

VHS Restauration:

I am using an MPEG-2 Decoding PCI Card in my PC from a german producer, called http://www.vidac.de. I connect a VHS Player to this card and record a VHS Cassette in best quality I can (MPEG-2 720x576)
The result is a *.mpv (MPEG-2) and a *.wav output.

After producing the MPEG-2 Files I was used the following Script, with the PAL plus 352x288 Template, and changed with the datas from the Black Prince Guide (Gop 24, KVCD Notch) and get fantastic results on one CD 700 MB:

This is the Script from "The Prince of Egypt" on noisy VHS Source, Fit on a 700 MB CD , Sound quality 160kbps, CQ 77 in Tmpeg, Movie is 1h 30min
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LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\MPEG2DEC.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\LegalClip.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\Sampler.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\Blockbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\Msharpen.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\FluxSmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\Ghostbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\DustV5.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\TemporalCleanerOld .dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\GripFit_Preview.dl l")
LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\DecombLegacy.DLL")
mpeg2source("C:\XVCD\DVDAVI\film.d2v")
#
LegalClip()
BilinearResize(352,288,0,2,720,576)
FluxSmooth()
FaeryDust()
Blockbuster(method="noise", variance=.8, seed=1)
Msharpen(threshold=15,strength=150)
TemporalCleaner()
AddBorders(16,17,16,17)
LegalClip()
#Sampler(length=24)
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DVD Copy:

For DVD Copy I am using DVD Decrypter for Ripping, Black Prince Guide Changes (GOP 24, KVCD Notch) and the KVCDx3 528x576 Template. Here is my script for Blade II , Fit on a 700MB CD, CQ Rate 50 in TMPEG, Movie is 1h 52min

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LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\MPEG2DEC.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\LegalClip.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\Sampler.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\Blockbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\Msharpen.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\FluxSmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\Ghostbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\DustV5.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\TemporalCleanerOld .dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\GripFit_Preview.dl l")
LoadPlugin("C:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\DecombLegacy.DLL")
mpeg2source("C:\XVCD\DVDAVI\film.d2v")
#
LegalClip()
GripCrop(width=528, height=576, overscan=2)
GripSize()
SpaceDust()
Blockbuster(method="noise", variance=.3, seed=1)
Msharpen()
TemporalCleaner()
GripBorders()
LegalClip()
#Sampler(length=24)
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Thanks mcclusky555,

It's great to hear those kind of comments

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BTW, what's the price of that card


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For DVD Copy I am using DVD Decrypter for Ripping, Black Prince Guide Changes (GOP 24, KVCD Notch) and the KVCDx3 528x576 Template. Here is my script for Blade II , Fit on a 700MB CD, CQ Rate 50 in TMPEG, Movie is 1h 52min
Please, Could you tell me how much time it takes to encode with TMPEG and all the filters you used, this movie ?

Also could you tell me witch PC (PIII- P4 .... Ghtz and so on ) you use ?

Thank's
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For DVD Copy I am using DVD Decrypter for Ripping, Black Prince Guide Changes (GOP 24, KVCD Notch) and the KVCDx3 528x576 Template. Here is my script for Blade II , Fit on a 700MB CD, CQ Rate 50 in TMPEG, Movie is 1h 52min
Please, Could you tell me how much time it takes to encode with TMPEG and all the filters you used, this movie ?

Also could you tell me witch PC (PIII- P4 .... Ghtz and so on ) you use ?

Thank's
i want to know too,it seems fantastic!

thanks in advance.
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Here some more Info's and Tipps:

First of all a general thing: Use always the "highest quality" in TMPEG!!

For Blade II I was using a Pentium III 1,0Ghz with an Intel Mainboard (Intel Chipset 810), Encoding Time was around 8 hours.

For the Prince of Egypt I was using an Athlon XP 1500+ with an ASUS Mainboard (AMD Chipset 760), Encoding Time was around 5 hours

My newest Project was Encoding of "a beautiful mind". I had a source file from a DVB satellite Recording in MPEG-2 (Movie lenght 124min) and in a resolution of 704x576. For this project I was used again the Pentium III and another Script.

Here's a little guide:

A beautiful mind (DVB 704x576) MPEG-2 to KVCD MPEG-1:

1.
Change the *.pva File to *.mpg with pva2mpg

2.
Made a DVDAVI Project (Audio Demux all tracks), get a (too big sized) *.mpa Audio File (192kbps 48000hz)

3.
Using Winamp to convert the *.mpa to *.wav (HeadAC3 crashes with direct convert mpa to mp2)

4.
Using HeadAC3 to convert the sound to 160kbps 48000hz


5.
So I had the following script:

LoadPlugin("D:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\MPEG2DEC.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\FluxSmooth.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\Blockbuster.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\DustV5.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\GripFit_preview.dl l")
LoadPlugin("D:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\TemporalCleanerOld .dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\Sampler.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\legalclip.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\XVCD\Bearbeitung\decomblegacy.dll")
Mpeg2Source("D:\XVCD\dvdavi\mind.d2v")
#
LegalClip()
GripCrop(source_anamorphic = true, 352, 288, overscan=2)
GripSize()
FluxSmooth()
SpaceDust()
TemporalCleaner()
GripBorders()
LegalClip()
#Sampler(length=24)

6.
The I was load the Pal Plus 352x288 Template, and unlock it with the unlock template , change to GOP 24 (Black Prince) and KVCD Notch and encode the movie, with the sampler filter using a CQ of 70 for finding out how big the movie will be.

7.
I always use the following formula to find out wich is the best CQ (for Fitting the CD):

TotalMovieFrames x SampleFile (in MB) divided trough SampleMovieFrames
plus the AudioFileSize (in MB)

Example for A Beautiful Mind" 194389 x 9.813 : 3120 + 140 = ~750MB
ok for burning to an 800MB CD

8.
That's it !! Remove the sampler Filter and Encode!
Encoding Time around 14h, Quality Excellent!!!
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Thanks mcclusky555,

It's great to hear those kind of comments

Edit:
BTW, what's the price of that card


-kwag
The price of the card ist around 300 Euro
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Thanks mcclusky555,

That's not bad at all
Is there a captured sample from that card available somewhere

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Thanks mcclusky555,

That's not bad at all
Is there a captured sample from that card available somewhere

-kwag
Hi Kwag, I think the best is you look here:

http://vmagic.unimatrixhub.net/

Greetz Mcclusky555
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03-07-2003, 10:23 AM
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Thanks

-kwag
There is some more important thing: If you want to use the vidac card, if possible use an Intel Chipset 850 Mainboard with RDRAM. I had some other configurations with very big problems, especially with VIA KT266 and 266A Chipset. With the KT Chipset the card crashes while recording.

About Divx:


Since today I use the Vidac card also for converting my DivX Movies into KVCD'S. I simply connect a second PC to the PC with the Vidac Card and rerecording the movie in digital quality MPEG-2. With this way I have a fully synchronized new source for using with the kvcd templates. Transcoding Time is Real Movie Time!! (Quality loss ~5%)

Greeetz McClusky555
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