No... I do not use TOK to encode. I only check for CQ and then do everything right in TMPGEnc. (However, I am playing around with MPEG-VCR instead of TMPGEnc for cutting commercials.)
The original Oceans 11 certainly does not contain the same kind of clean content in todays DVDs (like Matrix). It is basically a tape transfer where the source was mastered BEFORE VHS was even in place.
There is very little fast motion in the movie... and....
I do not have an HDTV. I have a Sony 35" Trinitron (and a Sony 5-disc DVD changer).
Between the cleanup the Sony player provides and the display limitations of S-Video to my TV the end result it basically perfect.
As Kwag said in previous posts you can not use the CQ number like a flat measurement.
When Dialhot said it take more than 65 and it is a matter of taste...
Well the matter of taste is true
but the CQ is way to relative to put levels in place. I have had 50 look better on one clip than 65 did on another. (That is an extreme example).
That is why TOK is so great.
You can see actual quality results before you waste the time encoding the whole clip.
My taste is no visable noise and the least blur possible.
I think most DivX encodes look like crap.
Using the KVCD I get way way better visual quality and it plays in a DVD player.
Oceans 11 worked perfectly... as have several other DVDs.
And... some need way more size than one CD-R to look good.
What I end up doing is batching up several clips. I run 4-8 instances of TOK at one time and then come back and look at the log files.
Then I use the data to batch up 4-8 projects in TMPGEnc. I leave it run and come back to the results.
Hope this helps!
(The bottom line on quality using the KVCD is only wether it will take 1 or 2 CD-Rs. I would challenge anyone who did not already know it was not a DVD to tell the difference when you follow the information from Kwag & the rest of this forum!)
Grantman