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I'm keeping my fingers crossed that file prediction
will go just as smoothly.
So Im I, but I have a strong feeling it will not
But I'll do my best to surprise everyone

Edit:
Hey!, I just noticed CQMatic is only ~24 hours old
Doesn't do much, but ~90% is already finished

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Hay Kwag..

Actually, there were a few things I didn't quite get in your
instructs..

You have to first launch TMPG, and create a .TPR file of your project ie,
I used my dvd movie, DOGMA.

Question...
When I create my .TPR file (above) and I set it up the way I would
normally do so, and finally, point CQMatic to it, will it take
over my settings, ie, CQ value etc. ?? ??
Just curous.

I'm a pain in the butt, I'm a pain in the butt.. but,

* Could you add in a CLEAR button, to clear that LOG window ??

Well, I'm testing it out now. If I have any thingelse
further to add, I'll do so here.

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ok, one more question, please.

Is there another method of obtaining the Average bitrate, instead of
using MovieStacker ??

I ask, case I don't have (or want) it installed at this time. Is MS using that
forumula to obtain Ave bitrate, that you posted earlier, what MS uses ??
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.
cause I'll use it for now.

Well, for now, I'm going to guess at the AVe for the movie, DOGMA.
Lets say, 900kb for starts.

Really, thanks again
-vhelp
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Hay Kwag..

Actually, there were a few things I didn't quite get in your
instructs..

You have to first launch TMPG, and create a .TPR file of your project ie,
I used my dvd movie, DOGMA.

Question...
When I create my .TPR file (above) and I set it up the way I would
normally do so, and finally, point CQMatic to it, will it take
over my settings, ie, CQ value etc. ?? ??
Just curous.
It will read you project file, and create a new temporary one. Yours is not modified at all
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I'm a pain in the butt, I'm a pain in the butt.. but,

* Could you add in a CLEAR button, to clear that LOG window ??
I'll add more stuff later. Now I'm focused on functionality, starting on file prediction routines now.
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Well, I'm testing it out now. If I have any thingelse
further to add, I'll do so here.
Great


-kwag
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ok, one more question, please.

Is there another method of obtaining the Average bitrate, instead of
using MovieStacker ??
Yes. There are many average bitrate calculators all over the net . Bitrateviewer, FitCD, MovieStacker, some Javacript calculators at vcdhelp, etc.
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I ask, case I don't have (or want) it installed at this time. Is MS using that
forumula to obtain Ave bitrate, that you posted earlier, what MS uses ??
You don't know what you're missing You're missing the most precise calculator available

-kwag
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07-19-2003, 07:55 PM
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Hi kwag..

Progress..

I have successfully tested your quicky app and as far as I can tell, it
passed w/ flying colors

But, it did what it's was suppose to right ??

One thing I noticed, that I hope to see in a future version, is a

* [x] keep TMPG open after completion
.
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so that I can see where TMPG left off, or for debuggin purposes.
* clear button
* [x] keep TMPG open after completion

Can't think of anything else just yet. Only first run, K ??
-vhelp
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Maestro Don Kwag:

Milagro de milagros...........so far, everything is working here as well. I had no problems creating a 4 minutes clip, using dvd2avi, by the way, the script works very good, which means that my notepad is not introducing any foreign characters; then followed your instructions and created the file in Tmpgenc. I just tested it with video, my next step is to do it with audio as well. (Output of headac3 to Tmpgenc audio folder, correct?)

Thanks Kwag

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Hi kwag..

Progress..

I have successfully tested your quicky app and as far as I can tell, it
passed w/ flying colors

But, it did what it's was suppose to right ??
It should start TMPEG, and encode your project with your settings. Nothing else.
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One thing I noticed, that I hope to see in a future version, is a

* [x] keep TMPG open after completion
That is the default I have it set, after the prediction passes. Only on prediction, it has to close, in order to iterate to find CQ. But on the last run, the full encode, it will stay open after it ends.

Here's cqmatic Version 0.92 Alpha. Still doesn't do prediction, but now the interface is I believe 99% finished, and with a little of my own personal touch
www.kvcd.net/cqmatic.exe

-kwag
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07-19-2003, 08:41 PM
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hi Kwag..

Thanks for the quick response

[quote="kwag"]
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Hi kwag..
Here's cqmatic Version 0.92 Alpha. Still doesn't do prediction, but now the interface is I believe 99% finished, and with a little of my own personal touch
www.kvcd.net/cqmatic.exe
-kwag
Will try out your latest update !!

Keep up the good work.
-vhelp
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I just tested it with video, my next step is to do it with audio as well. (Output of headac3 to Tmpgenc audio folder, correct?)
It doesn't matter where you put it, because as long as you have a valid .tpr project saved, I will follow that
That's the main reason I designed the program with this approach. Same will be with CCE and MainConcept (MCE).
You set all your parameters on the "ECL" file (CCE), and on the "*.mef" (MCE), and you have the control on the tailoring that the encoder provides. CQMatic will just automate the CQ process

-kwag
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working like a charm, don't need to say!


i got CQMatic again.

thanks.
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hi Kwag..

Thanks for the quick response

Will try out your latest update !!

Keep up the good work.
-vhelp
Careful with the helicopter

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working like a charm, don't need to say!


i got CQMatic again.

thanks.
Well, I guess the user interface (and all conditions and constraints too ) are done for now, and nobody has reported any bugs or errors. That's good
Now I'm on the last 5% of coding, which will really be another 95% of coding time
I hope my goal of finishing this by tomorrow is fulfilled, but I really doubt it
Now is when the real testing begins

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@ Kwag..

Progress..

You latest update is working fine, including your animating button hehe

-vhelp
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You latest update is working fine, including your animating button hehe
Gives you something to stare at, after a couple of beers during long encodes
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Thanks for your response Kwag. However, my scriptproblem came back again, I am so frustrated with it. I am really beginning to believe that I have something wrong with my set up. Not wanting to clutter this thread with my problem, I have posted my request for help within the Avisynth area.
Thank you again

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@totonho03,

totonho03 wrote:
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Thanks for your response Kwag. However, my scriptproblem came back again, I am so frustrated with it. I am really beginning to believe that I have something wrong with my set up. Not wanting to clutter this thread with my problem, I have posted my request for help within the Avisynth area.
Thank you again

Totonho03
I had the same problem and uninstalled and re-installed avisynth 2.52.
Everything is working again. Seems from time to time (what a curse),
avisynth 2.5.2 needs re-installing, especially when installing another
codec as I reciently have done. Tok still has problems for me no matter
what I do. So far, CQmatic is just what I need

-bp
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today i did some more tests with CQMatic,
more or less 398f0093872ff times.

all is ok, no problems.


the best:
CQMatic will be better and better!
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When will come your next version?
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I'm very pleased to announce the first working version of CQMatic
Version 0.92 BETA 1 http://www.kvcd.net/cqmatic.exe
*** Please *** note that prediction is still very flaky
Other than that, the program should run a complete cycle of prediction, and then either exit after prediction, or do a full encode. Depends if you selects "Full Encode" Or "Prediction Only" "toggle" button.
The program supports CQ AND CQ_VBR modes ONLY

Todo:
* Add timer to log. To keep track of prediction, encoding times, etc.
*Check MIN, MAX CQ boundaries. Right now, the program doesn't check MIN CQ or MAX CQ, so It may go wild on some weird sources
* Verify prediction accuracy
* Add user precision selection
* Add log file on disk


Notes:
TMPGEnc Project file must be saved as "text" file. CQMatic will not read TMPGEnc's propietary project files.
You must make sure that you save the project without source range selection, and "Cut editing" cleared (or reset). Normally, that is the default. But if you have done source editing, make sure you clear the list, and "Uncheck" source range. If you don't, CQMatic will run, but TMPEG will abort because of errors.
CQMatic was tested with TMPGEnc version 2.520. It should work with versions 2.513 ( and possibly with earlier version, down to around 2.58 )
CQMatic can be used to make KVCDs, SKVCDs, KDVDs, VCD, SVCD, DVD, etc, because you have full control of all parameters on the encoder. So anything configurable in TMPGEnc is now CQmatic'ized (), either MPEG-1 or MPEG-2

Please report bugs or anomalies on the "CQMatic Bug Reports" thread.

Enjoy
-kwag
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