Thanks again Bud, I am a little worried with an encding I have just finished, The Others, The final size is 570mb and the film is 109 mins so as you can imagine the quality is dismal. I will re-encode with higher than standard cq and see what I end up wih. The only thing is I am unsure what settings I can mess with being my first dvd and all. One thing though, when you said that you use dvd it do you mean that you are using it instead of tmpgenc or using it afterwards? Sorry for what must seem like really stupid questions. If you know of a decent guide could you post the link? Thanx