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You are looking for 2 boxes near Source Yellow folder pic, below mpeg resizing. If you can't modify it, load any valid source, then you can change it with your required values. Once maked it, press de arrow down icon. Upper values will be copied to film pixel boxes, and calcs will can be maked. (excuseme for my bad english, I hope you could understand)


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And dont set crop round to 16 as this could result in AR errors OR cutting too much from the source. Set it to 2 or 4.

If you have to use mod16 filters and your source is NOT Mod16 like some mpeg4's (and no GripCrop is used) I would use
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Import
Addingborders (at down and right)
Mod16Filtering
Crop back to orig state
Bicubicresize(and here the parameters out of moviestacker)
Addborders.

Sounds complicated BUT the result will contain defenitely a better effective picture area AND even maybe less AR error.
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And check "Anamorphic" on source, which is usually the case.

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i can't believe you are still trying to do this!

i thought you would have succeeded by now or given up.

1. rip mpg's from cdrs (iso buster or vcdgear)

2. demux video from audio (TMPGEnc.)

3. convert each video seperately to KVCD (CQmatic + TMPGEnc)

4. Mux video and audio back together (TMPGEnc)

5. Author onto 1 cd using VCDeasy or Nero.



thats it!!!!!!!!!

no need to re-encode audio.

whats the problem?
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@KIUSS: We are just answering all WOWIEGURL questions, one step one.


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THanks for the advice guys

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Originally Posted by KYUSS
i can't believe you are still trying to do this!

i thought you would have succeeded by now or given up.

1. rip mpg's from cdrs (iso buster or vcdgear)

2. demux video from audio (TMPGEnc.)

3. convert each video seperately to KVCD (CQmatic + TMPGEnc)

4. Mux video and audio back together (TMPGEnc)

5. Author onto 1 cd using VCDeasy or Nero.



thats it!!!!!!!!!

no need to re-encode audio.

whats the problem?
I have tried this, but when I load one half of the movie into cqmatic and get tmpgenc working. the cq drops to min of 2 & max of 60. I don't know how to fix it.
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06-29-2004, 01:39 AM
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Ok this is how i do it.

in the script i make these changes

Directshowsource("cd1.mpg") ( remove kill audio and it does the audio)
For a single cd encode i generally keep the audio at 112kbps.

For Multiple Files
Directshowsource("cd1.mpg") + Directshowsource("cd2.mpg")

I use the kill audio for prediction and remove it after that.

Rest of the script being the same , i have no problems whatsoever.
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I used the same script in this post, but I don't understand why the 2nd half of the movie doesn't show up in the preview screen when it encodes. If I let it finish then the end product, the 1st half has the video and the 2nd half is just black.
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06-29-2004, 03:41 AM
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Because you are doing an error somewhere. Or you source is corrupted !
A lot of Dled source on the net are splitted in 2 parts with a simple "file cutter" and the second part hasn't any header. You can read them but taht gives problems for encoding.

Do you have this with all your sources or only some of them ?

Note: I'm quite sure that you MUST use the kill audio if your mpeg has 2 audio stream because avisynth won't deal with that correctly.
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06-29-2004, 05:04 AM
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I didn't dl it off the internet, I bought it off the internet. I'm thinking that the problem has to do with the 1 video stream in cqmatic. I've now changed it to 2. But as I combining 2 mpgs would the audio stream be 2 as well or stay as 1? Each mpg only has 1 audio stream.

Kev23m - when you encode 2 mpgs into 1 file what is your cq? my cq is as low as 15. When I back up DVDs the cq is usually around 70 - 80 - 89. This is great looking on the standalone. I'm worried that if my cq is so low for 2 mpg files it would turn out terrible on the standalone.
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I didn't dl it off the internet, I bought it off the internet. I'm thinking that the problem has to do with the 1 video stream in cqmatic.
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NO ! You have to set the number of stream on ONE and put in the minutes the TOTAL minutes of the two sources !
I didn't remember you used CQMatic and the error is surely there : if the number of minutes given to CQMatic is wrong, the tool does not work correctly.

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my cq is as low as 15.
The CQ never depend on the source format.

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I'm worried that if my cq is so low for 2 mpg files it would turn out terrible on the standalone.
It seems that is simply a bad usage of CQMatic.
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file 1 is 47.14 mins long. The 2nd is 45.0 mins long. So I put 92 in the min & 14 in the seconds box (CALCUMATIC). I leave the audio is 128 bitrate I leave the video as 1 correct? Then in CQMATIC I round off the mins to 93. Then I paster avg bitrate of 1056.2 in the CQMATIC. PREDICTION 3 X & click execute. IS there anything wrong?
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No error in the process with CQMatic/Calcumatic.
Can you please copy/paste your EXACT script. Because I suspect an error in it.
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Yeah I generally do 150 min movies so use the ulbr template and get a cq of around 70. If its a 2 hr film then i increase the max bitrate.

Though i do my predictions manually. There is an error somewhere so as Dialhot says post the text based project file and the script you are using.
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a=DirectShowSource("E:\movie1.mpg").killaudio()
b=DirectShowSource("E:\movie2.mpg").killaudio()
a++b
ConvertToYV12()
BlindPP(cpu=4)
Blockbuster(method="noise",detail_min=1,detail_max =3,variance=0.1,seed=1)
Convolution3D(1, 6, 12, 6, 8, 2.8, 0)
GripCrop(352, 240, overscan=1, source_anamorphic=false)
GripSize(resizer="LanczosResize")
Undot()
TemporalSoften(2,7,7,3,2)
DCTFilter(1,1,1,1,1,1,0.5,0)
#Blockbuster(method="noise",detail_min=1,detail_ma x=10,variance=0.3,seed=5623)
GripBorders()


*sigh* - the 2nd half has gone black again....

IS there anyway of encoding 1 mpg1 file using an avs script? what would you change in the current scripts?
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06-29-2004, 10:26 AM
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Thats is not your exact script, that is the script I posted !
Or you renamed the movies "move1.mpg" and "movie2.mpg" ?
Else please POST THE EXACT SCRIPT !

BTW, can you please OPEN your script into tmpenc, go into the preview and drag the cursor till the end. Is the end correctly displayed ? What is the time and number of the last frame ?
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06-29-2004, 05:11 PM
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I renamed the movie. The time is 1.32.14. if the resolution is already 352*288 what should I change it to? If I use moviestacker it is the same result. I make the resolution to vcd standard.
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You answer to only half of the question : does the preview of tmpgenc display the correct picture for the second half or does it not ?

Second: you start from a PAL source and turn it into NTSC resolution without any line to convert the framerate


Okay we will just stop there, that's enought for me. You are doing something wrong, and we never find what it is this way. Open tmpgenc, go in file menu, mpeg tool, merge & cut, add movie1.mpg, add movie2.mpg, choose a name for the destination, set the mux format to VCD and press go.
You will have a merged mpg1 issued from the 2 parts and you won't have any troubles.

The end
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06-30-2004, 04:39 AM
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okay what resolution should I change it to since my original format was already 352*288? I just chose 352*240 since you said you shouldn't have the target resolution the same as the original file. TMPGENC shows the 2nd half fine. muxing it that way will make it a 900mb file
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No, the size won't change and you will still have to reencode it into KVCD. But you will have a single mpeg to convert as it seems that you do not manage to handle the movie when it is in two parts.

Second I never said something like this about resolution.

Third : which resolution ? The one you want but if you convert a PAL to a NTSC you have to change also the framerate ! And that is a totally different work.

Fourth (and last) : you argue to have buy these VCD and they aren't even in your area standard ? Or you don't know if you are in PAL or NTSC country and really do things without understanding the slightest detail ?

I won't add any words on that thread; It's really starting to bore me so I prefer to stop. You have ALL the informations needed there and anyone following them manage to do the job. So keep your VCD as they are, that's better after all.
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