For sale: ATI 600 USB, ATI AIW, Pinnacle capture cards

[amill19]

What's up, @lordsmurf

I have a laptop running Windows 11. I had been using Diamond VC500 for capturing through VirtualDub-1.10.4.
I have a JVC and a DVD player (forgive me, they're both in storage so I can't remember the model info). I had trouble getting the video to stabilize instead of bouncing, so I used an S-Video cable to run the feed through the DVD player. It worked like an absolute charm! I don't believe the tape(s) bounced at all.

Unfortunately, this was almost two years and got away from the video project I was embarking on. I was interested in the capture USB cards you had remaining. Which do you believe would work the most efficiently given what I am working with?
Also, can you assist me in how to run the feed through the DVD player, if possible?

I forgot which forum I had read on how to do that.

Thanks.

[meljr]

@amill19 - If you're going to be using Win11, I believe your only options are as presented, i.e., Tevion's ATi 600 clone or the Pinnacle stick (I assume you're in Europe and, therefore, need the PAL version). Both should be fine, although my understanding is that the Tevion requires minor tweaking in VirtualDub in order to bring out the best quality.

As for your setup, I'm assuming you're talking the infamous Panasonic ES10/15 player, which acts as a cheap frame TBC of sorts (not exactly but close enough for most people). You run the deck through the DVD player and then run the DVD player into the capture card. There should be plenty of posts about this setup if you go searching on the forum, including specific setup instructions for the player.

Good luck!

[amill19]

@meljr

I appreciate the assistance, my guy. However, I am actually in the USA. Everything strictly NTSC.

Also, the JVC I own has a TBC that was part of its' design. That could possibly explain why running the feed through the DVD player worked so well.

Do you happen to know the minor tweaking involved with VirtualDub?

[meljr]

Ahhh, cool. The late-night posting led me to assume Europe. Sorry. Anyway, just to be clear, the TBC in the JVC deck could be called "line TBC." It's different from "frame TBC," which is kinda sorta what the DVD player may be applying if it's the one I mentioned. Both TBCs are different and, in an ideal world, used to together to both maximize image quality (reduce geometric funkiness and individual image glitchiness) and smooth out the outgoing frames from the VCR (prevent frame drops and other nastiness that can mess with the resultant file).

Regarding the Tevion, here's what LS told me in an email recently about the Tevion. Nothing crazy but something to keep in mind.

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Originally Posted by lordsmurf

The Tevion uses the manufacturer bridge drivers, which are not tweaked. You have to go into the card proc amp settings (in VirtualDub), and adjust some values. Sharp 0, bright about -8. You can tweak others ±1 as desired. The good part is that VirtualDub tends to remember the value -- but only if the USB card is either left in, or at least plugged back into the same port. (When you move USB ports, drivers have to reinstall -- something most people don't know! So new install, new settings. So just remember that.)

[lordsmurf]

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Originally Posted by amill19

What's up, @lordsmurf

PM'd.

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Originally Posted by meljr

I'm assuming you're talking the infamous Panasonic ES10/15 player, which acts as a cheap frame TBC of sorts (not exactly but close enough for most people).

Actually, no. ES10/15 is a strong+crippled line TBC, with non-TBC frame sync. It's not a transparent device, and adds noises and unwanted alterations to the image. It's "better than nothing", but still not good in terms of a half-baked "TBC replacement".

[meljr]

Ahhh, sorry, my memory got mixed up on the exact nature of the TBC. Time to go back and double check my notes....

[amill19]

I appreciate it, @meljr!

I must apologize, gentlemen. I have had some pressing matters to attend to lately, so I have not been able to respond back to you for a little minute.

[BarryTheCrab]

I’ve never seen the note that states the much loved Tevion is better with VDub2. Is this new information?

-- merged --

I’d like a response on the Tevion/Vdub2 combo. Maybe this is not the correct place, but what is the difference from Vdub 1911? Is there a specific Vdub2 that is suggested? I’ve never seen this note.

[lordsmurf]

In WinXP, the Tevion does tend to work better with VirtualDub2, due to the way it interacts with the audio driver on preview. Possible VirtualDub2 issues still exist, but just monitor it.

This note is "new" as in with the past few years.

-- merged --

Listing updated.

[Traderbam]

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Originally Posted by lordsmurf

Listing updated.

If there is 1 Pinnacle left can you please use that one for my replacement please? I urgently need an update.

[Cyclove0]

Have you been getting my PMs?

[Rolle68]

LS: please check PM inbox

[bumflufftornado]

Also sent a PM

[lordsmurf]

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Originally Posted by Cyclove0

Have you been getting my PMs?

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Originally Posted by Rolle68

LS: please check PM inbox

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Originally Posted by bumflufftornado

Also sent a PM

PM'd, PM'd, PM'd.

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FYI, to anybody reading this post, know that I always PM reply within days. But apparently I have to reply in public to a PM request, not just send the PM. Because if I don't, apparently people then think I don't PM when requested in public, which is not case.

<sigh> I hate over-communication.

TPS reports, anybody?

[Traderbam]

Got a Tevion clone from LS. Can anyone please confirm the correct timing settings in VDub and any other necessary tweaks please for this device?

[Haunted_TBC]

Wow, Lordsmurf is coming to us live from the far-off year of 2027!

[lordsmurf]

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Originally Posted by Haunted_TBC

Wow, Lordsmurf is coming to us live from the far-off year of 2027!

I left the reply in the middle of a server maintenance. Date was wacky, fixed.

[UnicronHD]

Interested, PM'd.

[lordsmurf]

Listing updated.