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09-28-2024, 02:02 PM
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I've been plugging away with my LordSmurf JVC VCR and Big Voodoo TBC. I'm a fan of the results, but one take is giving me weird what I would call tracking issues. The tape physically looks in good condition but seems to have a slight "wave" in it only on the bottom edge. The capture shows intermittent wiggles along the top that must be too much for the line and Frame TBCs. I'm posting a photo of the tape and a short clip of the capture from my phone. I know, cell phone video... blah, but quick and dirty should be good enough to get the idea across.

Hope everyone is well out there, It's been a while since I've been on.

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09-28-2024, 08:14 PM
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The waves you mention at the bottom I'd guess is from playback in a VCR at some point in the past that didn't apply even tension or it could be that the tape was riding too low in the mechanism which would stretch the lower edge.

What you have there on your capture appears to be "tearing" or "flagging" though yours is quite flickery. A lot of times, the tearing will be more of a constant "bending" towards the left at the top of the frame.

I've yet to find many tapes that the recommended VCRs' line-TBCs won't correct, so I've been looking for tapes that "don't play well" to compare a variety of devices (VCRs, Frame TBCs, and capture cards). I'd be happy to transfer that tape for you for free in whatever format you want if you're willing to send it to me after you getting the best capture you can get yourself first.

I'm also in Michigan, so the tape won't have to travel too far if you want to go that route.

My guess is what you'll hear on this thread is to turn off the line TBC and add a DMR-ES10 for passthrough. If that's your only tape doing that, it probably isn't worth the investment and I do have an ES10 that I can use on it if the other VCRs and methods are not successful. I'm told the ES10 is more of a last resort since it doesn't preserve detail quite as well as internal line TBCs or more tolerant capture cards.

If that tape is a copy of the original tape, then all methods are going to be less successful in getting it straightened out since the error was probably "baked in" during the copy process from the original.

Also, what program are you using for capture there? I don't see "mov" files too often on Windows unless you're using Apple ProRes or an Elgato as the capture device.
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09-28-2024, 08:40 PM
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I’ll take you up on the offer. I travel for work so it may be a little bit before I can send it out, but YES, I’d love to see what you can do. It was my sister’s wedding in ‘92 and I doubt it was played 5 times in the past 30+ years. I’m sure it was a dub of the original, but I have no idea what the photographers workflow was. It is a second gen copy as far as I can tell.

I use an older discontinued pro level card with their provided software. I capture 10 bit raw in .mov format to eventually use in FCPX on a Mac. Please shoot me a DM and we can talk more about it and set up an exchange of the tape. I’m eager to hear from you.

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09-29-2024, 10:05 AM
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PM sent! I'll eventually update this thread with the same short snippet of what I was able to achieve. Being a second gen tape lessens the odds for it to go away completely, but I'm confident that a visibly significant improvement can be made.
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