ATI AIW 7500, 9000 AGP good capture cards?

[radiokom]

Because I have nothing against Windows XP and have two XP machines with Lynx One sound cards (the same story - drivers only for XP, otherwise very good sound cards), I decided to test 7500 and 9000. One comes with all cables, other without, but input is Mini DIN 8pin and what is needed is S-Video input. So any custom cable should work. Sound I believe, in VirtualDub can be routed through Lynx, it should be better than ATI.

P.S. Lynx One is historical card. Still up to specs. Together with Digital Audio Labs CardDeluxe (still have one) both was first professional PC sound cards with excellent sound and SNR. Later I switched to UA 2192 ADCs and Lynx AES16e, but it is another story.

Opinions about 7500/9000 from today point of view?

[aramkolt]

I think the 9000 specifically is on the preferred list because they have Theater 200 chips and have the readily available "purple domino" input cables. You can actually wire up your own shorter cable as the din connector those use is a standard mini din connector and readily available also. I just made a cable that goes from that to S-Video for shorter cable runs and simplicity.

I would personally avoid the other 9x00 series unless they have the purple domino type cables or come with the input adapters as they use nonstandard connectors. In some cases, they even require an adapter cable to plug in your monitor, so if the adapter ever did break, you'd end up with a fairly useless card.

The 7500 on the other hand uses an older rage theater chip that from my understanding is less preferred. I probably wouldn't bother with that other than to test since the 9000's are pretty ubiquitous.

[radiokom]

Thanks aramkolt! Very useful info!
I believe 7500 and 9000 connector pin layout is the same?

[enois]

I have one Rage Theatre chipset card (not remember if 7200 or 7500) and three Theatre 200 chipset (9000, 9200 and X800 VE).
The 7000 series have, in my opinion, a little bit "grainy" picture but overall good image quality.
The two card of I own of 9000 series suffer RF/electrical noise interference, especially the 9200 (bought new) is "de-facto" unusable for capturing.
The X800 have the cleanest image, even more than the 7000 series, but have the silver stab connector, so if without cable is complicated to use.

With 9000 and 9200 I was probably unlucky and, obviously, not means all 9000 series card suffer of RF/electrical noise interference, but some can.
https://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/vid...rence-ati.html

[aramkolt]

Ones that have noise could be due to bad surface mount capacitors. I generally just replace all of them to rule that out as a possibility. The 9200 has an advantage in that there are fewer SMT capacitors present, so a recap is easier.

[radiokom]

OK, I have 2 PC in attic, with Intel Pentium 4 processors about 3ghz, 2GB ram, Gigabyte mother boards, AGP (or GEAR how Gigabyte called that later) slot and 2 SATA interfaces. I do not know if they are working, but I will try (with new power supply of course). I am curious.

MB are those:
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard...15ME-GL-rev-1x

[BW37]

I hope someone more knowledgeable will chime in to confirm or disagree…

It’s my understanding that those Intel chipset bridged (from PCIe) AGP slots were not fully AGP compliant and did not work properly with the capture function of AIW cards.

Comments anyone?

BW

[radiokom]

Quote:

Originally Posted by BW37

I hope someone more knowledgeable will chime in to confirm or disagree…

It’s my understanding that those Intel chipset bridged (from PCIe) AGP slots were not fully AGP compliant and did not work properly with the capture function of AIW cards.

Comments anyone?

BW

Yes, it could be, thanks for the tip. This shows how much I have forgotten once well-known things It will be better not to put the AGP card in the GEAR slot. Will have to dig into the stock I have with a real AGP slot. Or to find a few somewhere together with processor and RAM.

[radiokom]

So i decided to use for those AGP 9000:

ASRock 775VM800 / Pentium D 945 3.4GHz / 2GB RAM

https://www.asrock.com/mb/via/775vm800/

Thank you BW37 again for saving my time and (maybe) even card (because GEAR could damage it)!