Quantcast Any feedback on Magewell capture cards? - digitalFAQ Forum
  #1  
12-31-2018, 11:15 AM
premiumcapture premiumcapture is offline
Free Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 585
Thanked 70 Times in 64 Posts
Was looking at the Magewell cards and the seem to have overall good reviews. I was looking at this one in particular:
http://www.magewell.com/products/pro-capture-hexa-cvbs
Reply With Quote
Someday, 12:01 PM
admin's Avatar
Ads / Sponsors
 
Join Date: ∞
Posts: 42
Thanks: ∞
Thanked 42 Times in 42 Posts
  #2  
12-31-2018, 11:35 AM
lordsmurf's Avatar
lordsmurf lordsmurf is online now
Site Staff | Video
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 11,696
Thanked 2,139 Times in 1,840 Posts
What good reviews?

Video forums are full of complaints about both Magewell and Blackmagic cards, for SD capture.
- For HD via HDMI or component, sure, great.
- For SD, it's about as good as an EZcap/Easycap (EZcrap/Easycrap) card.

There are some SD workflows that can apparently feed the signal through HDMI/component, but it requires DVD recorders that may add a layer of processing noise. And to date, I've only seen PAL users going down that route, as NTSC often forces upscaling on that output.

- Did my advice help you? Then become a Premium Member and support this site.
- For sale in the marketplace: TBCs, workflows, capture cards, VCRs
Reply With Quote
  #3  
12-31-2018, 11:52 AM
premiumcapture premiumcapture is offline
Free Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 585
Thanked 70 Times in 64 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by lordsmurf View Post
What good reviews?
For this and similar Magewell cards, I didn't see much negative out there, whereas the Blackmagic devices seem to get torn apart everywhere. Looked specifically at BH and Amazon and some other reviews.

Quote:
There are some SD workflows that can apparently feed the signal through HDMI/component, but it requires DVD recorders that may add a layer of processing noise. And to date, I've only seen PAL users going down that route, as NTSC often forces upscaling on that output.
Yes, I have played with HDMI output before via the Toshiba DR430 and others and and there is certainly some mostly unwanted processing, but it isn't terrible.

They do offer these as well but there's definitely scaling going on (and who knows what else?):
https://www.amazon.com/RadioShack-1500548-HDMI-to-Composite-Converter/dp/B018D2OOXA/

The search for the miracle device continues
Reply With Quote
  #4  
12-31-2018, 12:12 PM
lordsmurf's Avatar
lordsmurf lordsmurf is online now
Site Staff | Video
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 11,696
Thanked 2,139 Times in 1,840 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by premiumcapture View Post
The search for the miracle device continues
If a miracle device did exist, I'd probably already own it.

It's still a matter of "some of this, some of that" (multiple hardware devices in a workflow), probably not the most ideal OS, but it gets the job done as best as can be achieved. After that, it's the land of Avisynth.

I'd love to have a capture card that integrates true line+frame/field TBCs (with adjustable strength, ie JVC v.s ES10 line performance), has advanced proc amp controls (both YUV and RGB), advanced deinterlacing (QTGMC in GPUs), 4:2:2 hardware compression for lossless/MPEG/H264 (and ProRes422 would be a bonus), with choice of container (AVI, QT, MKV, MP4, MPG), using a specialized highly sophisticated (proprietary is fine) capture software interface (yet lean like ATI MMC was, so as not to caused dropped frames like NLEs do). And that's just the SD.

Am I forgetting anything?

For HD, probably everything I could think of and more, and honestly quite a bit of it already exists in current HD offerings. However, I must say, what good is capturing HD beyond HDTV channels? The source is digital, and can almost always be acquired, so re-capturing seems daft. The only time you capture digital is if you don't have access to the source. In a professional setting, how often does that happen?

And again, of course, it needs mention again, the problem is all the HD cards really suck at SD work, worse than a cheap $15 USB knick-knack made in Chinese sweat shops. It's pathetic.

- Did my advice help you? Then become a Premium Member and support this site.
- For sale in the marketplace: TBCs, workflows, capture cards, VCRs
Reply With Quote
  #5  
01-01-2019, 08:32 AM
Eric-Jan Eric-Jan is offline
Free Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Netherlands,
Posts: 334
Thanked 39 Times in 34 Posts
@premiumcapture: the card you mention is a more or less Pro card, just like BMD hardware, they expect a good quality video signal, so nothing wrong in that matter, i have good experience using a Panasonic VCR/DVR combo ES35V.
So important, is to have a good source in the first place.
btw.. ProRes422 isn't lossless, but you can use it to capture on BMD hardware, and put it in .MOV format, and later any other compression in post.
A lot also depends on your PC hardware, storage capacity, and through-put speed, where you decide for.

Last edited by Eric-Jan; 01-01-2019 at 08:47 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Feedback on first VHS capture samples steffen42 Capture, Record, Transfer 0 06-26-2018 05:13 PM
Turn off the deinterlace feature on Magewell Pro Capture HDMI? Jeremii Capture, Record, Transfer 3 04-15-2018 05:04 PM
Want feedback, insight on planned VHS capture system aburgesser Capture, Record, Transfer 0 08-06-2016 09:25 PM
VHS capture setup feedback - more equipment needed? Kugelfang Project Planning, Workflows 6 04-22-2015 09:54 AM
Do ATI All In Wonder cards or ATI TV 600/650 cards capture both PAL and NTSC video? kpmedia Capture, Record, Transfer 0 06-16-2011 05:44 PM

Thread Tools



 
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:09 AM