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please,someone answer me:
did you see the image(colors) "breathing" in each second
after the changes to "adaptive in the TemporalSmoother filter"
the colors seems that encrease and decrease each second...
like beating!
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Hi jorel,
I think I know what you mean. It's the extremely high chroma values that are applied on very low movement scenes. I'm fixing that right now
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thanks for atention Kwag!
dredj a few minutes in his second post, see the same :
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4729
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Thanks for all of you with eagle eyes out there
I was able to see the effect CLEARLY on a specific scene on K-Pax. Here's the fix:
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ScriptClip("nf = YDifferenceToNext()"+chr(13)+ "nf > 2 ? \
unfilter( -(fmin(round((nf/0.5)), 100)), -(fmin(round((nf/0.5)), 100)) ) : \
TemporalSoften(4, round(1/nf) , round(3/nf) ,0, 2) ")
The previous values were just plain too strong
There shouldn't be any "Bleeding" of chroma now. Period
I'm updating the script page right now.
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06-29-2003, 07:15 PM
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What now, are we in trouble again
good thing i hanen't encode enything yet.
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Don't worry, we nailed this one in less than 24 hours
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Don't worry, we nailed this one in less than 24 hours
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yes dear friend, right between the eyes.
really better(my opinion)
and when i load the script in vdubmob it run soft,
the system runs easy too and the image is cool without "breath"
the best...the prediction CQ encrease 3 points.
@ Osvaldo,
i did a encode when i see it and have to do all again.
i have 9
movies to encode, my 2 hds are full of vobs.(100Gb)
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Hey Kwag TemporalCleaner sims to do a good job
TemporalCleaner (ythresh=5, cthresh=10)
Im becoming a filter frik now
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and when i load the script in vdubmob it run soft,
the system runs easy too and the image is cool without "breath"
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That's exactly how I found the problem. It looked really nasty on a scene in Vdub, where the person sits down and the camera stays still. So it's a vertical scroll. So I tunned the values until the effect was gone, and then I lowered it about 10% for insurance Quote:
the best...the prediction CQ encrease 3 points.
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Same here
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06-29-2003, 08:28 PM
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everything is better!
more CQ, more image quality, the system run soft and faster too.
big goal Kwag
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Wha Man I hope my results are as good as yours. I'm going to try out the new script right now. Kwag you still using ToK 0.0.5.2?
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Kwag you still using ToK 0.0.5.2?
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Yep
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06-30-2003, 01:28 AM
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Kwag,
see my results and if i'm using the right adjusts in ToK
CQs predictions from ToK0052 with the new script!
using 1st group of passes:
precidion% 0,50
speed up by 1 time
CQ: 59,639
and using new faster prediction (Tenra)
CQ: 59,638
right?
you only check the (Tenra) to got your results
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Hi jorel,
Yes, I only check "New Faster Prediction", set Precision to 0.5% and Speed Up by 10.
For full prediction, I uncheck the faster prediction, and also uncheck the 2nd group of passes. Then I change the first group speed Up to 1.
For all, I leave the factor for prediction set to 1.0.
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thanks...
testing all ways now!
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Well what can I say , here's a sample from the last encode
I think this just can't get any better ( at least for the next 48 hours )
This looks almost like ( or like? ) my DVD
www.kvcd.net/k-pax-fixed-adaptive.mpg
Comments always welcome
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Kwag
i download the k-pax sample and see
good quality colors with great matizes, amazing sharpness too.
right as you wrote
"I think this just can't get any better ( at least for the next 48 hours )"
for me too.
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How is it possible that CQ goes up when you lower the filter values??
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How is it possible that CQ goes up when you lower the filter values??
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Probably because the values were going up so high, that the color bleed caused chroma/luma shifting and ghosting, and the image was actually dirtier
Now that the picture is extremely clean, the CQ goes up
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Well I wasn't as luck. Came up 30MB short on a 800mb CD encode with the new script. Looks great though, so I'll settle for a little loss in space.
Kwag, are you using 1 sample per minute and the auto sample size for your prediction?
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