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please,someone answer me:

did you see the image(colors) "breathing" in each second
after the changes to "adaptive in the TemporalSmoother filter"

the colors seems that encrease and decrease each second...
like beating!
hey,me again.

i see the same but less "breathing" in each second!
just a "little few" beating changing every second!
little blocky areas too like andybno1 posted.

only i see it?
nobody see?
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only i see it?
nobody see?
Sorry, I use temporalcleaner now

But yo can try round(2/nf) insteed of round(3/nf) in the third parameter of temporalsoften.
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sorry?
why?

post how you use temporalcleaner,
i want to test it too!
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I think this is what Dialhot uses Jorel.

Quote:
ScriptClip("nf = round(YDifferenceToNext())"+chr(13)+ "nf >= 2 ? \
unfilter( -(fmin(nf*2, 100)), -(fmin(nf*2, 100)) ) : \
temporalcleaner(fmin(3+nf,7),fmin(8+nf,15)) ")
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thank you Osvaldo!


what's your results testing with temporalcleaner?
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Phil and Osvaldo:

with temporalcleaner the colors are draw...seems better,
the size with my sample encrease a little but
straight "breathing" yet...like pulsing,beating

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hi Jo, i haven't really try TemporalCleaner in the MAS yet, but that pulsing that you are talking about sounds maybe like your memory defrager setting is too high, just a guess dude.
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yes,Osvaldo..maybe this is the problem of "beating".

send me recomendations...what i do?
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yes,Osvaldo..maybe this is the problem of "beating".

send me recomendations...what i do?
I would put a very low (2-3mb) optimise at a low auto defrag level (40-50mb) thats what i do.
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i don't know how to do it.
please Osvaldo pm to me,
i am "off topic".
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You can PM that to me too, I think it's maybe off-topic, but still informative.
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Maybe you Guys should just disable the software n encode a clip to
make sure thats your problem before you go crazy guessing, just left
click exit on the icon.
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Kwag

Thought you might be interested in the way that the KVCD method has stopped someone in their tracks Check this

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...0&pagenumber=2

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07-04-2003, 01:12 AM
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He already knows, I've started hanging out here.

Right now I'm trying to figure out what noise filtering I do pre-KVCD and how that might mess things up. I doubt SpotRemover as a way to fill dropouts and scratches would interfere. Things like DarkSmoother need to be tested.

I'm working on field-oriented filtering right now and have run into a couple of problems with the optimal script. AviSynth doesn't have a chr function so there's got to be more script.
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07-04-2003, 01:20 AM
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Right now I'm trying to figure out what noise filtering I do pre-KVCD and how that might mess things up. I doubt SpotRemover as a way to fill dropouts and scratches would interfere.
How about a heavy spatial filter
Spatial filters work on a frame by frame basis, not on adjacent frames like temporal filters. So maybe a mix of spatial filters will do the job

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07-04-2003, 01:30 AM
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It's not as simple as that with old film or any analog tape. Look at the image at the bottom of this page: http://www.geocities.com/fredthompson6

This shows a number of things including:

1) scratch/dropout restoration must be done on a per-field basis.
2) spatial filtering must be done on a per-field basis
3) scratch/dropout filtering must be done before decombing
(believe me, it's a LOT harder otherwise)
4) chroma filtering needs to be done first

In this case, greyscale() or tweak() works for chroma but only because this is a B&W film captured from VHS tape.

I'm also looking at near-black swim on camcorder and satellite source. That's where DarkSmoother comes in.

Am also wondering how to get rid of the swimming near the edges of satellite MPEG and at the beginning of a scene change. Some of that source is pre-compressed so very good but hte streamed stuff is noisy as all getout.

Tried encapsulating the optimal script but AviSynth is choking on it.

The idea is to have global variable at the top of the script so Joe Sixpack can easily configure it. These are followed by media-specific cleaning then the field split like so:

GetParity() ? nop() : ReverseFieldDominance()
even=SelectEven(SeparateFields()).KVCD_Filter()
odd=SelectOdd(SeparateFields()).KVCD_Filter()
Interleave(even,odd).Weave()

(That first line is to ensure order because DV is reversed.)

Problem is, AviSynth doesn't like the encapsulation. I'm PMing you the script right now.
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07-04-2003, 02:39 AM
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Script just updated.
Now TemporalSoften "radius" paramer is also adaptive
Artifacts (Gibbs) are now buried deeper

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hey,

few "seconds" out and tons news and tons posts to read!
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