DVD2AVI: Forced Film?

jorel · #1 02-06-2003, 01:29 AM

forced film

hi all,

i'm

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in what "situation" we must use "forced film" in "field operation"?

ever?

rendalunit · #2 02-06-2003, 02:10 AM

hi jorel,

use force film if the movie is >=95% FILM (preview with F5 and look at video type in the stat window). If less than 95% FILM but still mostly FILM, turn off Force Film and use decomb filter in your Avisynth script.

-ren

jorel · #3 02-06-2003, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rendalunit

hi jorel,

use force film if the movie is >=95% FILM (preview with F5 and look at video type in the stat window). If less than 95% FILM but still mostly FILM, turn off Force Film and use decomb filter in your Avisynth script.

-ren

really thanks friend "ren"!

jorel · #4 02-07-2003, 06:58 AM

oops...i forgot:

what about 29.970?
in what situation i turn to "forced film"?
and in KVCDx3Mpeg2 template in Tmpgenc,i turn "force film"when?

i am trying one dvd that is :
aspect radio 4:3
frame rate 29.970 fps
video type ntsc
frame type interlaced

what i select in dvd2avi?

Forced film?
29.970?

kwag · #5 02-07-2003, 08:34 AM

Run DVD2AVI and load your VOBs. Now press "F5". Let it run. If after ~30 seconds or so you see >95% FILM, then select "Force FILM". If <95% FILM, then don't select "Force FILM".

-kwag

jorel · #6 02-08-2003, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag

Run DVD2AVI and load your VOBs. Now press "F5". Let it run. If after ~30 seconds or so you see >95% FILM, then select "Force FILM". If <95% FILM, then don't select "Force FILM".

-kwag

here i go again:

Kwag wrote:
"If <95% FILM, then don't select "Force FILM"."

in this case i don't select forced film in dvd2avi,
than how i have to encode in tmpgenc with KVCDx3?
23.976 or 29.97 when no forced film in dvd2avi?

black prince · #7 02-08-2003, 09:12 AM

@jorel,

A quick way to solve your problem is to run DVD2SVCD. Use the
VOB's and check the box to edit avs script. Before you run
D2S select just one chapter instead of the whole movie. Edit
the script D2S creates to determine what technique D2S used. I use
this method when I can't determine whether to force film or
use decomb.

-black prince

jorel · #8 02-08-2003, 11:01 AM

thanks black prince,
very smart way!

jorel · #9 02-09-2003, 10:11 AM

but my doubt remains:

in this case i don't select forced film in dvd2avi,
than how i have to encode in tmpgenc with KVCDx3?
23.976 or 29.97 when no forced film in dvd2avi?

.... still confused!
i have to learn the "manual way",without dvd2svcd!

thanks in advance!

kwag · #10 02-09-2003, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorel

but my doubt remains:

in this case i don't select forced film in dvd2avi,
than how i have to encode in tmpgenc with KVCDx3?
23.976 or 29.97 when no forced film in dvd2avi?

If the source is 29.97 interlaced, then you must encode at 29.97 and deinterlace if your target is (K)VCD. If your target is SVCD(or SKVCD), then you don't need to deinterlace, and just encode at 29.97

-kwag

jorel · #11 02-09-2003, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kwag

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorel

but my doubt remains:

in this case i don't select forced film in dvd2avi,
than how i have to encode in tmpgenc with KVCDx3?
23.976 or 29.97 when no forced film in dvd2avi?

If the source is 29.97 interlaced, then you must encode at 29.97 and deinterlace if your target is (K)VCD. If your target is SVCD(or SKVCD), then you don't need to deinterlace, and just encode at 29.97

-kwag

thank you very much Kwag,(again and again)
i was waiting this answer to "clear" me for
looooooooonnnng time!

muaddib · #12 02-09-2003, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kwag

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorel

but my doubt remains:

in this case i don't select forced film in dvd2avi,
than how i have to encode in tmpgenc with KVCDx3?
23.976 or 29.97 when no forced film in dvd2avi?

If the source is 29.97 interlaced, then you must encode at 29.97 and deinterlace if your target is (K)VCD. If your target is SVCD(or SKVCD), then you don't need to deinterlace, and just encode at 29.97

-kwag

Kwag always shoots right on target!

Let me just say one thing... I know that you have a CCE DVD player, so you are making KSVCDs, but with a source that you have to encode at 29.97fps (like the one you talked about), I think you can encode at MPEG1 and it will work fine with your player in any resolution). Just give it a try, and tell me your results.

jorel · #13 02-09-2003, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by muaddib

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwag

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorel

but my doubt remains:

in this case i don't select forced film in dvd2avi,
than how i have to encode in tmpgenc with KVCDx3?
23.976 or 29.97 when no forced film in dvd2avi?

If the source is 29.97 interlaced, then you must encode at 29.97 and deinterlace if your target is (K)VCD. If your target is SVCD(or SKVCD), then you don't need to deinterlace, and just encode at 29.97

-kwag

Kwag always shoots right on target!

Let me just say one thing... I know that you have a CCE DVD player, so you are making KSVCDs, but with a source that you have to encode at 29.97fps (like the one you talked about), I think you can encode at MPEG1 and it will work fine with your player in any resolution). Just give it a try, and tell me your results.

thank you muaddib.

i was waiting for you for 2 days my friend!
everything is fine?
thanks for your observation about my player,i follow you too!
i tell you all the results!