Computer build for lossless in Premiere Pro?

[Mejnour]

I am building a dedicated PC for PremierePro (mainly color correction)

Primary Lossless files on the timelime that have been previously deinterlace in Hybrid.

Reading AMD vs Intel test related to PPro, it look like performance may slightly change according to the material type on the timeline. (LongGOP; Intraframe: RAW).

Can I assume that lossless files are more related to the intraframe result? or it's a more complicated story?

Test Breakdown

Maybe those test are more or less relevant because it's related to 4k content...

About GPU
I was wondering people have experience situation where GPU really help for playback/encoding this kind of files in PremierePro.

I was looking at RTX4060 price range, Intel Arc got also my attention.

Any experience about this specific topic are more than welcome...if it can save me buck

Merry Christmas to all.

[lordsmurf]

Lossless files (and assuming SD captures here) have near-zero benefit from GPU. The bottleneck is the I/O, the storage. So the internal or external storage needs to be fast. Not just the drive speed, but the controllers.

I process everything on 4tb Samsung SATA SSDs, direct on the Asrock motherboard primary controllers. The only way to really get faster is with NVMe, which you'd easily get on the newer quality motherboards.

For me, the biggest issue with AMD has always been heat. In prior years/decades, AMD was always hotter. In more recent ears, AMD is cooler under normal use, but still much hotter at full throttle (ie, video editing, encoding, restoration). If you live/work in a place where temps are also relatively cold (like Canada, certain northern Europe countries, etc), great. But if you live/work in a place where you still sweat with AC on, then AMD systems are miserable, acting as room heaters to compete with AC.

Either way, invest in the best Noctua fans/heatsinks, and consider liquid metal (paste replacement).
- My main non-video uses LM, and tends to run silent under normal load, no fan spin.
- My main video editing rig uses Noctua, and is also near-silent, even under load.

On both, I'm using standard iGPU (onboard graphics) from Intel.

GPU really only comes in with GPU-enhanced filters like upscale, certain restoration filters like KNLmeansCL. You can still run on iGPU, it's just much slower (ie, 16-hour processing job, instead of 4-8 hours).

Modern GPU really only helps with H.265. I have a Mac M2 Pro for my H.265 processing (where 265 comes from the camera, processed 265, output 264 and/or 265). There I have WD Black 8tb NVMe SSDs via Thunderbolt 4. I use FCP for color correction, editing.

In general, AMD motherboards have always been more unstable, lesser quality components, made for the "bang for the buck" (cheapskate!) crowd. You get what you pay for. It's less true now, several decent AMD boards. But also still lots of crap. Whereas Intel is mostly good boards, far less junk, and also lots of higher-end (non-AMD features).

Contrary to what you see from tech bloggers, Youtubers, Reddit, etc, AMD is still a minority player in semiconductors, dwarfed by Intel. It's literally 3:1 (Intel 75% market share, AMD has 25%). People like underdogs, and do all they can to root/cheer for the "little guy", even when it's not deserved. And realize I say this owning AMD stock in my IRA (because of datecenter/AI growth drivers), not Intel stock (stagnant growth).

[Gary34]

Having three SSDs is important. Use one for your OS and programs, one for cache/scratch, and one for your media. If you have an NVME use it as the scratch.

If I were to buy a monitor now I would go with an HD IPS. I would go with what LS has.https://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/vid...-accurate.html

[Mejnour]

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordsmurf

Lossless files (and assuming SD captures here) have near-zero benefit from GPU. The bottleneck is the I/O, the storage. So the internal or external storage needs to be fast. Not just the drive speed, but the controllers.

I process everything on 4tb Samsung SATA SSDs, direct on the Asrock motherboard primary controllers. The only way to really get faster is with NVMe, which you'd easily get on the newer quality motherboards.

Exactly SD material. Yes on NVMe.

Always bottleneck? I mean if I setup a rig with crazy speed and price gen5 SSD, I will still see benefit for playback and encoding? vs gen4 SSD?

Thank you for your view on the GPU, this was not clear how GPU help for this set-up.

I don't particulary like Apple but I admit they have crazy unmatched laptop and if I would do editing on a laptop, I will buy one.

[Mejnour]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary34

Having three SSDs is important. Use one for your OS and programs, one for cache/scratch, and one for your media. If you have an NVME use it as the scratch.

If I were to buy a monitor now I would go with an HD IPS. I would go with what LS has.https://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/vid...-accurate.html

Good advice, it was on in my new design plan.

So faster for the scratch...