Go Back    Forum > Digital Life > Tech Myths, Misinformation

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
04-11-2010, 09:10 AM
kpmedia's Avatar
kpmedia kpmedia is offline
Site Staff | Web Hosting, Photo
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 4,311
Thanked 374 Times in 341 Posts
This week's issue was found on the site of Media Transfer Plus (Houston, Texas) at http://mediatransferplus.com

Screen capture from 4/11/2010


Our analysis and response:
Quality is generally determined by a lack of digital video artifacts (digital noise), and higher bit rates prevent artifacts.

A DVD is also not a VHS tape -- the length of content is not determined in minutes, but by the bitrate. (Let's also forget all this modes/minutes non-sense, that's typical amateur speak. "Minutes or SP/LP/EP/etc modes, as it applies to recording a DVD, is an artificial terminology that was created for consumers to ease the transition from VHS to DVD. Devices that record in minutes/modes are hardware limited devices, unlike professional gear that caters to the needs of the client or content.)

This is a simple equation: Length of material x bitrate = filesize
Filesize must be at or under ~4.38GB to fit DVD-R/DVD+R, or under ~7.95GB to fit DVD+R DL

If I max out the video bit-rate of a DVD-Video MPEG-2, it's going to be closer to 60 minutes for a single-layer disc, using AC3 Dolby Digital audio compression. (For all you non-techs, "single layer" is plain DVD-R or DVD+R, the "4.7Gb" or "120 minute" kind. A normal SL DVD-R/DVD+R holds 4.38GB of data.) Even if this company claims to use DVD+R DL (double layer media), their numbers are still off. A DL discs holds slightly less than double the content, maybe 105-110 minutes at a truly "max quality" spec.

In fact, depending on content and the quality of the hardware and software in use, it's possible to put 3-4 hours on a disc, and still have it look excellent. Furthermore, a 3-hour Half D1 disc can be better quality than a 2-hour Full D1 disc, as the bit rate allocation is far more saturated at the half setting. And Half D1 is often quite adequate for the detail held in a average quality VHS tape.

That they're even counting video in "minutes" suggests that they might be using ordinary consumer-grade DVD recorders, or some other type of template-driven or hardware-limited system, and not professional equipment. This is something to check on before considering any service. Why pay somebody else for a service when you could buy the same consumer equipment and get the same potentially mediocre consumer-grade results?

Also...


This counters most widely-accepted research and information on the topic of hard drives. A hard drive is mechanical, and the mechanical parts fail. While it is a good idea to keep additional backups of data on a hard drive, to say that it "extends the lifespan of your media" is misinformation. That quote doesn't even make sense, it's techie Jabberwocky. How can a disk extend a disc?

Most data shows hard drives tend to die in 5-10 years, whereas a good recordable DVD has an estimated lifespan well into the 25-75 year range. So how can an average 10-year (at best!) disk "extend the lifespan" of a average 25-year (at worst) disc? Google, Verbatim, NIST, OSTA and LOC all have publicly available materials on the topic of media longevity, from their research.

About these pages:
Remember that these posts are made for consumer awareness of misinformation, myth, propaganda or other questionable information/data that has appeared on sites (often for video conversion services) that we've seen online. Sites that are found to have misinformation, myth or propaganda will be listed in our Video Service Hall of Shame.

Thanks.

- Did my advice help you? Then become a Premium Member and support this site.
- Please Like Us on Facebook | Follow Us on Twitter

- Need a good web host? Ask me for help! Get the shared, VPS, semi-dedicated, cloud, or reseller you need.

Last edited by kpmedia; 04-18-2010 at 08:40 PM.
Reply With Quote
Someday, 12:01 PM
admin's Avatar
Ads / Sponsors
 
Join Date: ∞
Posts: 42
Thanks: ∞
Thanked 42 Times in 42 Posts
  #2  
12-23-2010, 03:30 PM
soarestar soarestar is offline
Free Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I have looked at Media Transfer Plus' website, and none of these statements which you picked apart are on their website.

I have used Media Transfer Plus on a number of occasions and their work is excellent. I have also referred friends to them who were also extremely impressed.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
12-23-2010, 03:47 PM
kpmedia's Avatar
kpmedia kpmedia is offline
Site Staff | Web Hosting, Photo
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 4,311
Thanked 374 Times in 341 Posts
Quote:
I have looked at Media Transfer Plus' website, and none of these statements which you picked apart are on their website.
The screen caps from April 2010 clearly show the misinformation, as published on their site.

Quote:
I have used Media Transfer Plus on a number of occasions and their work is excellent. I have also referred friends to them who were also extremely impressed.
Given the amount of fake "review" comments found online, I honestly doubt you're anything other than a spammer who works for, is friends with, or is family of, the company in question. This is referred to as a "black hat" type of use of the Internet. And based off what I just saw at their current site (which I re-checked, due to your post), they are actively participating in the use of unethical means by which to "trick" search engines. For example, all of this hidden text on the homepage:

Quote:
photo scanning
converting 8mm film to dvd
transfer 8mm movies to dvd
8mm to dvd conversion
scan slides to dvd
super 8mm film transfer
convert 8mm video to dvd
convert 8mm to dvd
convert 8mm film to digital
document scanning
transfer 8mm to dvd
transfer home movies to dvd
transfer 8mm film to dvd
vhs to dvd conversion service
8mm film to dvd
film to dvd transfer
slides to dvd
super 8mm film to dvd
convert home movies to dvd
transfer mini dv to dvd
8mm film to cd
convert super 8 film to dvd
35mm film to dvd
transfer slides to dvd
8mm movies to dvd
35mm slides to dvd
transfer super 8
film to dvd
convert slides to digital
8mm to dvd
transfer vhs to dvd service
old home movies to dvd
8mm film conversion
convert slides to dvd
Negatives to digital
convert super 8 to dvd
home movies to dvd
convert 8mm film to dvd
slides to dvd conversion
copy 8mm to dvd
Negatives transfer to DVD
cassette to cd
vhs to dvd service
vhs to dvd
8mm film transfer
super 8 movies to dvd
photos to dvd
8mm film to digital
super 8mm to dvd
8mm movie transfer
video copy
Photos to CD
super 8 film to dvd
film to
vhs video to dvd
film to dvd conversion
super 8 to dvd
audio cassette to cd
transfer photos to dvd
convert 8mm tape to dvd
transfer to dvd
video transfer
super 8mm film
camcorder to dvd transfer
dv to dvd
vhs tapes to dvd
tape to dvd
copy vhs tapes to dvd
8mm film
video conversion
film transfer
transfer vhs to dvd
8mm video to dvd
transfer tape to dvd
transfer film
8mm tape to dvd
transfer vhs tapes to dvd
convert hi8 to dvd
8mm video tape to dvd
convert vhs tapes to dvd
pictures to dvd
transfer movies to dvd
conversion to dvd
dvd transfer
8mm transfer
convert vhs to dvd
home movie film
hi8 to dvd
copy vhs to dvd
vcr to dvd
dvd conversion
analog to digital
convert vhs movies to dvd
transfer hi8 to dvd
8mm to
vhs transfer
video to dvd transfer
dvd to dvd
cine film to dvd
converting 8mm film to dvd denver
transfer 8mm movies to dvd denver
8mm to dvd conversion denver
scan slides to dvd denver
super 8mm film transfer denver
convert 8mm video to dvd denver
convert 8mm to dvd denver
convert 8mm film to digital denver
document scanning denver
transfer 8mm to dvd denver
transfer home movies to dvd denver
transfer 8mm film to dvd denver
vhs to dvd conversion service denver
8mm film to dvd denver
film to dvd transfer denver
slides to dvd denver
super 8mm film to dvd denver
convert home movies to dvd denver
transfer mini dv to dvd denver
8mm film to cd denver
convert super 8 film to dvd denver
35mm film to dvd denver
transfer slides to dvd denver
8mm movies to dvd denver
35mm slides to dvd denver
transfer super 8 denver
film to dvd denver
convert slides to digital denver
8mm to dvd denver
transfer vhs to dvd service denver
old home movies to dvd denver
8mm film conversion denver
convert slides to dvd denver
Negatives to digital denver
convert super 8 to dvd denver
home movies to dvd denver
convert 8mm film to dvd denver
slides to dvd conversion denver
copy 8mm to dvd denver
Negatives transfer to DVD denver
cassette to cd denver
vhs to dvd service denver
vhs to dvd denver
8mm film transfer denver
super 8 movies to dvd denver
photos to dvd denver
8mm film to digital denver
super 8mm to dvd denver
8mm movie transfer denver
video copy denver
Photos to CD denver
super 8 film to dvd denver
film to denver
vhs video to dvd denver
film to dvd conversion denver
super 8 to dvd denver
audio cassette to cd denver
transfer photos to dvd denver
convert 8mm tape to dvd denver
transfer to dvd denver
video transfer denver
super 8mm film denver
camcorder to dvd transfer denver
dv to dvd denver
vhs tapes to dvd denver
tape to dvd denver
copy vhs tapes to dvd denver
8mm film denver
video conversion denver
film transfer denver
transfer vhs to dvd denver
8mm video to dvd denver
transfer tape to dvd denver
transfer film denver
8mm tape to dvd denver
transfer vhs tapes to dvd denver
convert hi8 to dvd denver
8mm video tape to dvd denver
convert vhs tapes to dvd denver
pictures to dvd denver
transfer movies to dvd denver
conversion to dvd denver
dvd transfer denver
8mm transfer denver
convert vhs to dvd denver
home movie film denver
hi8 to dvd denver
copy vhs to dvd denver
vcr to dvd denver
dvd conversion denver
analog to digital denver
convert vhs movies to dvd denver
transfer hi8 to dvd denver
8mm to denver
vhs transfer denver
video to dvd transfer denver
dvd to dvd denver
cine film to dvd denver
converting 8mm film to dvd boulder
transfer 8mm movies to dvd boulder
8mm to dvd conversion boulder
scan slides to dvd boulder
super 8mm film transfer boulder
convert 8mm video to dvd boulder
convert 8mm to dvd boulder
convert 8mm film to digital boulder
document scanning boulder
transfer 8mm to dvd boulder
transfer home movies to dvd boulder
transfer 8mm film to dvd boulder
vhs to dvd conversion service boulder
8mm film to dvd boulder
film to dvd transfer boulder
slides to dvd boulder
super 8mm film to dvd boulder
convert home movies to dvd boulder
transfer mini dv to dvd boulder
8mm film to cd boulder
convert super 8 film to dvd boulder
35mm film to dvd boulder
transfer slides to dvd boulder
8mm movies to dvd boulder
35mm slides to dvd boulder
transfer super 8 boulder
film to dvd boulder
convert slides to digital boulder
8mm to dvd boulder
transfer vhs to dvd service boulder
old home movies to dvd boulder
8mm film conversion boulder
convert slides to dvd boulder
Negatives to digital boulder
convert super 8 to dvd boulder
home movies to dvd boulder
convert 8mm film to dvd boulder
slides to dvd conversion boulder
copy 8mm to dvd boulder
Negatives transfer to DVD boulder
cassette to cd boulder
vhs to dvd service boulder
vhs to dvd boulder
8mm film transfer boulder
super 8 movies to dvd boulder
photos to dvd boulder
8mm film to digital boulder
super 8mm to dvd boulder
8mm movie transfer boulder
video copy boulder
Photos to CD boulder
super 8 film to dvd boulder
film to boulder
vhs video to dvd boulder
film to dvd conversion boulder
super 8 to dvd boulder
audio cassette to cd boulder
transfer photos to dvd boulder
convert 8mm tape to dvd boulder
transfer to dvd boulder
video transfer boulder
super 8mm film boulder
camcorder to dvd transfer boulder
dv to dvd boulder
vhs tapes to dvd boulder
tape to dvd boulder
copy vhs tapes to dvd boulder
8mm film boulder
video conversion boulder
film transfer boulder
transfer vhs to dvd boulder
8mm video to dvd boulder
transfer tape to dvd boulder
transfer film boulder
8mm tape to dvd boulder
transfer vhs tapes to dvd boulder
convert hi8 to dvd boulder
8mm video tape to dvd boulder
convert vhs tapes to dvd boulder
pictures to dvd boulder
transfer movies to dvd boulder
conversion to dvd boulder
dvd transfer boulder
8mm transfer boulder
convert vhs to dvd boulder
home movie film boulder
hi8 to dvd boulder
copy vhs to dvd boulder
vcr to dvd boulder
dvd conversion boulder
analog to digital boulder
convert vhs movies to dvd boulder
transfer hi8 to dvd boulder
8mm to boulder
vhs transfer boulder
video to dvd transfer boulder
dvd to dvd boulder
cine film to dvd boulder
converting 8mm film to dvd colorado
transfer 8mm movies to dvd colorado
8mm to dvd conversion colorado
scan slides to dvd colorado
super 8mm film transfer colorado
convert 8mm video to dvd colorado
convert 8mm to dvd colorado
convert 8mm film to digital colorado
document scanning colorado
transfer 8mm to dvd colorado
transfer home movies to dvd colorado
transfer 8mm film to dvd colorado
vhs to dvd conversion service colorado
8mm film to dvd colorado
film to dvd transfer colorado
slides to dvd colorado
super 8mm film to dvd colorado
convert home movies to dvd colorado
transfer mini dv to dvd colorado
8mm film to cd colorado
convert super 8 film to dvd colorado
35mm film to dvd colorado
transfer slides to dvd colorado
8mm movies to dvd colorado
35mm slides to dvd colorado
transfer super 8 colorado
film to dvd colorado
convert slides to digital colorado
8mm to dvd colorado
transfer vhs to dvd service colorado
old home movies to dvd colorado
8mm film conversion colorado
convert slides to dvd colorado
Negatives to digital colorado
convert super 8 to dvd colorado
home movies to dvd colorado
convert 8mm film to dvd colorado
slides to dvd conversion colorado
copy 8mm to dvd colorado
Negatives transfer to DVD colorado
cassette to cd colorado
vhs to dvd service colorado
vhs to dvd colorado
8mm film transfer colorado
super 8 movies to dvd colorado
photos to dvd colorado
8mm film to digital colorado
super 8mm to dvd colorado
8mm movie transfer colorado
video copy colorado
Photos to CD colorado
super 8 film to dvd colorado
film to colorado
vhs video to dvd colorado
film to dvd conversion colorado
super 8 to dvd colorado
audio cassette to cd colorado
transfer photos to dvd colorado
convert 8mm tape to dvd colorado
transfer to dvd colorado
video transfer colorado
super 8mm film colorado
camcorder to dvd transfer colorado
dv to dvd colorado
vhs tapes to dvd colorado
tape to dvd colorado
copy vhs tapes to dvd colorado
8mm film colorado
video conversion colorado
film transfer colorado
transfer vhs to dvd colorado
8mm video to dvd colorado
transfer tape to dvd colorado
transfer film colorado
8mm tape to dvd colorado
transfer vhs tapes to dvd colorado
convert hi8 to dvd colorado
8mm video tape to dvd colorado
convert vhs tapes to dvd colorado
pictures to dvd colorado
transfer movies to dvd colorado
conversion to dvd colorado
dvd transfer colorado
8mm transfer colorado
convert vhs to dvd colorado
home movie film colorado
hi8 to dvd colorado
copy vhs to dvd colorado
vcr to dvd colorado
dvd conversion colorado
analog to digital colorado
convert vhs movies to dvd colorado
transfer hi8 to dvd colorado
8mm to colorado
vhs transfer colorado
video to dvd transfer colorado
dvd to dvd colorado
cine film to dvd colorado
converting 8mm film to dvd houston
transfer 8mm movies to dvd houston
8mm to dvd conversion houston
scan slides to dvd houston
super 8mm film transfer houston
convert 8mm video to dvd houston
convert 8mm to dvd houston
convert 8mm film to digital houston
document scanning houston
transfer 8mm to dvd houston
transfer home movies to dvd houston
transfer 8mm film to dvd houston
vhs to dvd conversion service houston
8mm film to dvd houston
film to dvd transfer houston
slides to dvd houston
super 8mm film to dvd houston
convert home movies to dvd houston
transfer mini dv to dvd houston
8mm film to cd houston
convert super 8 film to dvd houston
35mm film to dvd houston
transfer slides to dvd houston
8mm movies to dvd houston
35mm slides to dvd houston
transfer super 8 houston
film to dvd houston
convert slides to digital houston
8mm to dvd houston
transfer vhs to dvd service houston
old home movies to dvd houston
8mm film conversion houston
convert slides to dvd houston
Negatives to digital houston
convert super 8 to dvd houston
home movies to dvd houston
convert 8mm film to dvd houston
slides to dvd conversion houston
copy 8mm to dvd houston
Negatives transfer to DVD houston
cassette to cd houston
vhs to dvd service houston
vhs to dvd houston
8mm film transfer houston
super 8 movies to dvd houston
photos to dvd houston
8mm film to digital houston
super 8mm to dvd houston
8mm movie transfer houston
video copy houston
Photos to CD houston
super 8 film to dvd houston
film to houston
vhs video to dvd houston
film to dvd conversion houston
super 8 to dvd houston
audio cassette to cd houston
transfer photos to dvd houston
convert 8mm tape to dvd houston
transfer to dvd houston
video transfer houston
super 8mm film houston
camcorder to dvd transfer houston
dv to dvd houston
vhs tapes to dvd houston
tape to dvd houston
copy vhs tapes to dvd houston
8mm film houston
video conversion houston
film transfer houston
transfer vhs to dvd houston
8mm video to dvd houston
transfer tape to dvd houston
transfer film houston
8mm tape to dvd houston
transfer vhs tapes to dvd houston
convert hi8 to dvd houston
8mm video tape to dvd houston
convert vhs tapes to dvd houston
pictures to dvd houston
transfer movies to dvd houston
conversion to dvd houston
dvd transfer houston
8mm transfer houston
convert vhs to dvd houston
home movie film houston
hi8 to dvd houston
copy vhs to dvd houston
vcr to dvd houston
dvd conversion houston
analog to digital houston
convert vhs movies to dvd houston
transfer hi8 to dvd houston
8mm to houston
vhs transfer houston
video to dvd transfer houston
dvd to dvd houston
cine film to dvd houston
converting 8mm film to dvd texas
transfer 8mm movies to dvd texas
8mm to dvd conversion texas
scan slides to dvd texas
super 8mm film transfer texas
convert 8mm video to dvd texas
convert 8mm to dvd texas
convert 8mm film to digital texas
document scanning texas
transfer 8mm to dvd texas
transfer home movies to dvd texas
transfer 8mm film to dvd texas
vhs to dvd conversion service texas
8mm film to dvd texas
film to dvd transfer texas
slides to dvd texas
super 8mm film to dvd texas
convert home movies to dvd texas
transfer mini dv to dvd texas
8mm film to cd texas
convert super 8 film to dvd texas
35mm film to dvd texas
transfer slides to dvd texas
8mm movies to dvd texas
35mm slides to dvd texas
transfer super 8 texas
film to dvd texas
convert slides to digital texas
8mm to dvd texas
transfer vhs to dvd service texas
old home movies to dvd texas
8mm film conversion texas
convert slides to dvd texas
Negatives to digital texas
convert super 8 to dvd texas
home movies to dvd texas
convert 8mm film to dvd texas
slides to dvd conversion texas
copy 8mm to dvd texas
Negatives transfer to DVD texas
cassette to cd texas
vhs to dvd service texas
vhs to dvd texas
8mm film transfer texas
super 8 movies to dvd texas
photos to dvd texas
8mm film to digital texas
super 8mm to dvd texas
8mm movie transfer texas
video copy texas
Photos to CD texas
super 8 film to dvd texas
film to texas
vhs video to dvd texas
film to dvd conversion texas
super 8 to dvd texas
audio cassette to cd texas
transfer photos to dvd texas
convert 8mm tape to dvd texas
transfer to dvd texas
video transfer texas
super 8mm film texas
camcorder to dvd transfer texas
dv to dvd texas
vhs tapes to dvd texas
tape to dvd texas
copy vhs tapes to dvd texas
8mm film texas
video conversion texas
film transfer texas
transfer vhs to dvd texas
8mm video to dvd texas
transfer tape to dvd texas
transfer film texas
8mm tape to dvd texas
transfer vhs tapes to dvd texas
convert hi8 to dvd texas
8mm video tape to dvd texas
convert vhs tapes to dvd texas
pictures to dvd texas
transfer movies to dvd texas
conversion to dvd texas
dvd transfer texas
8mm transfer texas
convert vhs to dvd texas
home movie film texas
hi8 to dvd texas
copy vhs to dvd texas
vcr to dvd texas
dvd conversion texas
analog to digital texas
convert vhs movies to dvd texas
transfer hi8 to dvd texas
8mm to texas
vhs transfer texas
video to dvd transfer texas
dvd to dvd texas
cine film to dvd texas
save old movies
save old home movies
save old movies houston
save old home movies houston
save old movies texas
save old home movies texas
save old movies denver
save old home movies denver
save old movies boulder
save old home movies boulder
save old movies colorado
save old home movies colorado
.... and I've reported it to Google, as it's against their policies, as well as most other search engines. Sites that hide text to trick search engines end up de-listed and sandboxed. Is there anything else stupid Media Transfer Plus would care to attempt? Be it with videos or web sites, it doesn't appear that these people have a good grasp of digital media, and I would strongly urge customers seek service elsewhere.

Don't worry, this isn't the only company I'll be writing about. There's a whole list, and plenty of commentary to go around.
I'm just a bit too busy right now -- 2011 will be different.

- Did my advice help you? Then become a Premium Member and support this site.
- Please Like Us on Facebook | Follow Us on Twitter

- Need a good web host? Ask me for help! Get the shared, VPS, semi-dedicated, cloud, or reseller you need.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bad Seagate hard drives, firmware fix available admin Computers 0 08-01-2009 02:49 AM
External hard drives reviews: Best brands to buy ? hordeprime Computers 4 11-24-2006 06:14 PM
Sales on External & Internal Hard drives cp32 Computers 0 10-13-2006 06:07 AM
FS/FT:Hard Drives/USB 2.0 PCI card/GPU Cooler [SOLD] wheezer210 Marketplace 0 09-05-2006 08:06 AM

Thread Tools



 
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:42 AM