Panasonic DMR-E55EG like ES10 passthrough?

[Uraz88]

I recently got that dvd recorder dmr-e55 for mistake
i suppose to get a es10 but there was a mistake
should i return it? is worth that machine for transfer a vhs from a super vcr Panasonic nv-fs200?
soon i will get also the jvc dr-m10

[hodgey]

It's a model that pre-dates the ES10. I've seen some people report that PAL ones work well, but idk for sure, if you have it you could always test it.

(In case you made a typo, there is also newer model called EH55 that's basically a ES15 with hard drive and should work equally well to the ES15, but I presume you are talking about the actual E55.)

[Uraz88]

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Originally Posted by hodgey

It's a model that pre-dates the ES10. I've seen some people report that PAL ones work well, but idk for sure, if you have it you could always test it.

(In case you made a typo, there is also newer model called EH55 that's basically a ES15 with hard drive and should work equally well to the ES15, but I presume you are talking about the actual E55.)

i will try to test it
im waiting the jvc dr-m10 that i heard is good device for encode

[lordsmurf]

E55 is old, previous series.
No.
E55 is not EH55.

[hodgey]

From the other thread I see you already have a DMR-EZ48 combo, that one should also be usable for pass-through.

[Uraz88]

I sold it man
I dont have it anymore
Going to buy a super vhs jvc 7600 or 9600eu

[Bogilein]

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Originally Posted by lordsmurf

E55 is old, previous series.
No.
E55 is not EH55.

Everything is old when it comes to video capturing - that doesn't count as an argument.

Why should the E55 not work as a passthrough device?

Has anyone ever tested the E55?

I don't think Panasonic has use so many different analog to digital chipsets in their DVD recorder series. I think there were 3-4 different ones. The 1st generation up to the ES10. Then the 2nd generation from the ES15. In between, there was probably another chip (from a third-party manufacturer with LSI or am I wrong).

[lordsmurf]

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Originally Posted by Bogilein

Everything is old when it comes to video capturing - that doesn't count as an argument.

No it's not.
- legacy = non-new, still used and useful
- old = old, no real need/use, supplanted by better hardware/tech, often replace by now-legacy gear

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Why should the E55 not work as a passthrough device?

Because it lacks the passthrough TBC feature of the ES series?

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I don't think Panasonic has use so many different analog to digital chipsets in their DVD recorder series.

In the 10+ years of production, it was quite a few, almost 1 per year. The biggest issue was they would always screw around with luma, and had "crunchy" encode quality (noise, blocks). So none of their recorders were ever good. The ES10/15 is only good because of the passthrough, and still should not be used for disc creation. PAL seems to have a few 10/15 with-HDD versions, which is surely nice for you.

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I think there were 3-4 different ones. The 1st generation up to the ES10. Then the 2nd generation from the ES15.

ES10 and ES15 were really the same series.
The ES20/25 was the 2nd gen, and it was a flop, weak line TBC (did it even actually have a TBC?) that was mostly worthless.

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In between, there was probably another chip (from a third-party manufacturer with LSI or am I wrong).

You're not wrong. But the LSI encoder chipset has nothing to do with passthrough. And Panasonic was also dumb about LSI implementation (forced 720 @ low bitrates, etc), and is the only LSI-based recorder to have crappy quality encodes. Even flawed latter LiteOns look better, and that's saying something, because LiteOn owners were quite unhappy and vocal about the green-shaded luma issues.

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I'm far more interested in your testing of certain Sony PAL recorders. You've isolated a few good models, and I want to create a sticky/guide here from your information. I always forget where your comparison post is, I'll have to look sometime. I'm more interested in your exposure/value changes findings than the TBC changes.

Certain Toshiba models (NTSC) had similar success at performance, but was also never a TBC, could never entirely replace a TBC. However, good encoding quality!