Any differences in Video8 workflow compared to Hi8?

[EmielBoss]

My setup for capturing PAL Hi8 is:
Sony CCD-TR825E (TBC On) --S-Video--> ES15 --S-Video--> AVT-8710 --S-Video--> Pinnacle 710-USB --USB--> Windows XP/VirtualDub

Would I have to do anything different if I want to capture Video8? As far as I have read, I should still capture at 720x576 @ 25 fps. Anything else I'm missing?

[latreche34]

You should always capture with basic components and add as necessary:
Sony CCD-TR825E (TBC On) --S-Video --> Pinnacle 710-USB --USB--> Windows XP/VirtualDub

Then fix accordingly based on the artifact you have whether it be frame or line errors. In your current setup you are doing 5 signal conversions:
Camcorder -- Analog --> Digital --> Analog --> Digital --> Analog --> Digital --> VirtualDub

V8 is no different from any other analog tape based format.

[EmielBoss]

Thanks! I thought a frame TBC was deemed essential in every workflow, but I'll run a capture without it and see what happens!

[EmielBoss]

Left without AVT-8710, right with AVT-8710:

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The colors are more saturated, and I like that there is less black border

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Here I actually prefer the colors with AVT-8710, as they're less overblown. There is slightly less visible with AVT-8710.

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The big problem with capturing without AVT-8710, however, is that in some scenes, the video shifts up so much that it clips the top part. Is there any way to mitigate this?

[latreche34]

Do you see the frame shift if connected directly to a flat panel TV, I know you can't see it with built in camera LCD screen or CRT TV because they have enormous amount of overscan.

[EmielBoss]

No, the shifting doesn't happen if connected directly to a flat panel TV (it only has component input, but if I capture with component input, the shifting also happens, so I assume this to also hold for S-Video). I tried another Sony camcorder (CCD-TR820E) for which the shifting also happens, and a Canon camcorder that doesn't have line TBC, for which the shifting didn't happen.

[EmielBoss]

I'm just gonna keep using the ES15 and AVT-8710, because then the image doesn't shift, the colors aren't oversaturated, and I do not notice and quality degradation due to all the conversions.