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What was the golden age of regular VHS VCRs? And are Panasonic Omnivision (blueline) considered the best of this type of regular VHS VCR? Until what year were they good before the quality started to go down?

Could this yield very good results: Regular VHS VCR from the sweet spot year --> output composite to a Panasonic ES-10/ES-15 passthrough --> output S-Video to a capture device. Would the decomb in the ES-10-ES-15 take that composite image and split it up into chrome and luma and deliver it to the capture card even better than an average S-VHS VCR would have?
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Panasonic VHS VCRs in 70s/80s were fine, probably best.

Panasonic VHS VCRs are among the worst in the 90s, JVC not much better -- those were definitely not the S-VHS VCRs! In the 90s, the best are Sharp (late 90s), some Sony, some Philips/Magnavox (early 90s), some Toshiba. Stuff from "old brands" like RCA, GE, Emerson, Westinghouse, etc, were mostly rebadged by no-names (Funai, others).

All you really had in the 2000s was Funai junk, sold under many brands.

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What was the golden age of regular VHS VCRs? And are Panasonic Omnivision (blueline) considered the best of this type of regular VHS VCR? Until what year were they good before the quality started to go down?
It never worked that way, It was always high end VCRs and low end VCRs at every era, S-VHS VCRs are the best for capturing and the later generations among them are the better after they started using system on the chip and digital processing. Almost anything prior to late 80's is not recommended for capturing nowadays.
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04-03-2024, 10:52 AM
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In decombing a LaserDisc, my S-VHS JVC VCR in passthrough mode is noticeably better than my ES-10.
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In decombing a LaserDisc, my S-VHS JVC VCR in passthrough mode is noticeably better than my ES-10.
Hmmmmm. I know people use certain camcorders for line TBC passthrough - Or are you just saying that it'll turn composite into S-Video (without line TBC effect) better than the ES10?
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04-04-2024, 08:55 PM
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Passing the composite signal through the JVC results in less rainbowing than with the ES-10.
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The late 90s/early 00s JVC SVHS decks have a pretty good adaptive Y/C comb filter built into them. The Panasonic AG-1980 comes in second as it does have some lag detecting onscreen motion and is an older design.
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