08-08-2024, 04:57 PM
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Is there a pay service that has the uses Domesday Duplicator ? I need 3 laserdiscs copied for my personal use . I can't afford a Domesday Duplicator plus I do not have any soldering skills . I just need a straight copy . Not sure how any of it works . I like to burn it to a blu-ray after I use Topaz video AI . Anyone with any idea please let me know or if there is someone who provides this service . No one in my area even knows what a domesday is .
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I found 1 service , $1-$1.50 a minute for just raw copy about $200 to copy a LD I don't think so , and bunch of fees and add on's if you want more work . I find this insane ! Talk about price gouging . I'll do this myself with better results .
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08-13-2024, 01:45 AM
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I'm not at all surprised that it'd take $200 for 1 Laserdisc. That pricing isn't really out of line given the time, work, tools, and experience required. People vastly underestimate the amount of time and storage that FM extraction takes. At least ld-decode (Domesday86) is better quality than conventional recording, which is not true of vhs-decode. If you have the time to DIY, go for it, but it'd not a straight-forward easy process.
Topaz "AI" (not real AI) is not quality upscale. If you want to go to the effort of FM extraction, don't screw it up with that low-end software. Learn better Avisynth and Vapoursynth, using 'GAN/etc methods. Topaz has always been known as a low-quality software vendor, a cheap version of Adobe software.
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08-13-2024, 06:48 PM
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All of those are very old processes, but it does allow people with the right skills to build their own algorithms, but also makes it incredibly hard to use, and can go wrong very easily. Mostly I'd just say its someone who likes the way they do things and will never admit that new ways might be better.
Topaz IS AI. It uses learned intelligence to upscale and deinterlace, sharpen, uncompressed video, etc. That said, it IS also a cheap alternative. That's the reason so many people are using it. Its defiantly not the same quality you'd get with a $20,000 package. No one expects it to be.
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08-14-2024, 01:39 AM
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Where did the $20,000 package part come from?
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08-14-2024, 01:59 AM
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All of those are very old processes, but it does allow people with the right skills to build their own algorithms, but also makes it incredibly hard to use, and can go wrong very easily. Mostly I'd just say its someone who likes the way they do things and will never admit that new ways might be better.
Topaz IS AI. It uses learned intelligence to upscale and deinterlace, sharpen, uncompressed video, etc. That said, it IS also a cheap alternative. That's the reason so many people are using it. Its defiantly not the same quality you'd get with a $20,000 package. No one expects it to be.
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Grade school analogy time: Topaz is to AI, as firearm is to squirt gun.
I don't think we disagree that much.
I have a vastly more targeted definition of AI, while Topaz is extremely loose with the term. It's not too different from "cloud" (redundant failover vs. "a computer that's online"), or "TBC" (video timing correction vs. "some sort of processing somewhere"). I despise loose definitions, or even duplicated model numbers (and for the dumbest of reasons: SKUs). Reminds me of a sibling, "all politicians are the same". No, they are not! Argh!
Sometimes differences (and definitions) do really matter, even if some (who don't understand any of it) consider it unimportant.
You can get actual image/video AI for a monthly subscription, and it's less than $20K.
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