Dazzle capture card quality?

[Larsenv]

This was trolling thread, edited to stay on-topic for archiving.

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lordsmurf and vwestlife hate the dazzle because funai survivorship bias and they think it looks like it was recorded from a funai vcp. just ignore what they say as they are a owner of funai vcp

[lordsmurf]

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Originally Posted by BitcrushdBuzzLightyear

because funai survivorship bias

What sort of nonsense is this?

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and they think it looks like it was recorded from a funai vcp. just ignore what they say as they are a owner of funai vcp

You seriously think I use Funai VCRs?

Do I own Funai deck? Yep. But it's so I can show others what not to do.

[Larsenv]

vwestlife would know what I meant because he mentioned it in a video

and yes you likely have a funai vcr in your collection. it's like a red headed stepchild.

funai vcrs ARE trash but I mean my girlfriend bought one because they're cheap, $7.50 at goodwill. She just wanted to watch some of the studio ghibli films in VHS mode, not even to digitize them. When I looked at the prices for your "vcr capture setup" I balked because gotmemories is cheaper. but actually, my friends saw one of my captures of my high school video and instead of crying about how bad the visuals were, they cried tears of joy for opening up that memory. I used my easycap to do it, and while it did look bad (using widescreen mode on OBS, NOT joking, it was 5 years ago), my friends didn't mention it being bad quality

[lordsmurf]

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Originally Posted by BitcrushdBuzzLightyear

funai vcrs ARE trash but I mean my girlfriend bought one because they're cheap, $7.50 at goodwill. She just wanted to watch some of the studio ghibli films in VHS mode, not even to digitize them.

Playing VHS tapes in the 2020s is simply damaging to the tapes. If you don't care, or have already digitized it, or can get better digital quality (releases, streaming) anyway, then fine, go for it. It will eventually ruin after dozens more views, but I don't care if you don't care. Funai is as good as anything else to slowly decay the tape. Have fun with VHS, with tapes, with the content -- but that fun will end. It's temporary.

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When I looked at the prices for your "vcr capture setup" I balked because gotmemories is cheaper.

Gotmemories is a bottom-barrel service.
There's actually a current discussion on them here: https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/...guiding-people

Comparing
(1) a high-end DIY capture setup, to
(2) a mouthy prick that gleefully showcases his awful work on Youtube,
simply is not the same thing.

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but actually, my friends saw one of my captures of my high school video and instead of crying about how bad the visuals were, they cried tears of joy for opening up that memory. I used my easycap to do it, and while it did look bad (using widescreen mode on OBS, NOT joking, it was 5 years ago), my friends didn't mention it being bad quality

That means nothing. I can give a can of beans to a homeless dude, and he may be thankful. But it'll probably give him the runs. In the moment, many are thankful. In hindsight, not so much. That video didn't have to look that bad, and I'm sure your friend will realize it eventually.

[Larsenv]

You can say that it's bad all you want, but I like my JVC HRXVC27. I bought a Panasonic VCR Omnivision PV8661 but the whole mechanism broke when the tape got ejected at one point. Samsung VCR was trash.

I know, it's JVC, they're the inventor of VHS, but unlike GodMemories' willpower, it's lasted 4 years with light use. I got it at Goodwill for $10!

I don't focus on making it perfect which is why I don't invest in your setup. It isn't like digital formats where I can dump stuff that are a bunch of 1s and 0s.

[lordsmurf]

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Originally Posted by BitcrushdBuzzLightyear

but I like my JVC HRXVC27.

Most JVCs are indeed quite awful, but that one should be okay. Other brands of decks are still better, but that exact unit isn't too dissimilar from the DR-MV1 or MV5, from ~2005. I tested and reviewed each of those pretty in-depth back then.

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I bought a Panasonic VCR Omnivision PV8661 but the whole mechanism broke when the tape got ejected at one point. Samsung VCR was trash.

Yep, that tracks.

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I don't focus on making it perfect which is why I don't invest in your setup. It isn't like digital formats where I can dump stuff that are a bunch of 1s and 0s.

That's why the quality of decks and capture cards matter so much, and why TBCs are required. You're bridging technologies, when converting analog SD videotapes to digital formats.

[Larsenv]

The JVC VCR is from 2004. I cleaned the heads with lens cleaner and a microfiber cloth, since I didn't have a chamois stick, printer paper doesn't seem right at all. I wish that it could convert VHS to DVD but it does the invert, but it isn't like it would matter much since it would do MPEG compression.