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im currently using an ATI600USB and capturing in MPEG
how much difference would i see by going to a AIW 9600?

i have an old XP pc lying around (2.4ghz P4) that has an AGP slot and can get a AIW9600
just wondering if there would a noticeable difference in picture quality
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01-31-2012, 09:36 PM
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Alright ... I'm going to finish those ATI 600/650 guides right now.
While doing this, since I'll have a VCR out, I'll go connect it to an ATI 9600 card, too.

JVC SR-V10U > AVT-8710 > ATI cards

I'm of the opinion that the captures will be identical, based on years of using both.
But with a test like this, you can additionally analyze it to death with tools, if you want.

So, back in a couple of hour...

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thank you
i just noticed you had a similar thread on this -sorry for the redundant post
in your other post i see one thing i'll get with the AIW is the video-soap.
is that alone worth switching?
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video-soap. is that alone worth switching?
It depends.

VideoSoap is only really good at removing grain from older VHS tapes, using an 18% setting on the Salt-and-Pepper filters. The S&P had another name, too, in later versions of ATI MMC before it was dropped. I don't recall both names off-hand*. I think it's written in the ATI AIW MPEG guides. It's good for those when you want to pre-process somewhat grainy video into MPEG format directly.

In recent years, I tend to only use it when converting very grainy tapes to high bitrate MPEG-2. I'll further filter the video in VirtualDub or Avisynth. With low-cost work, this is one way to offer some NR without being time-consuming (and therefore costly), and some customers opt for this.

VideoSoap is just one of several tools you can use in your workflow. I'm not a purist, meaning I insist ONLY on uncompressed or lossless, NR in software only, etc. Whatever method looks good, and does not harm quality, is one that I'm willing to use. And sometimes VideoSoap comes in handy.

Most of the time, it's not used.


* I'll remember to look at the alternate filter name when I do the 9600 comparison.

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