Deinterlacing with Hybrid?

[araset]

Hi I am newbie and using this tutorial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKYNqZdqawc&t=31s
I have PAL AVI file and I am resing it to 1354:1080 using auto adjust. I am trying to set deinterlacing with Vapoursynth or Avisynth with Bob with Medium preset and during encoding, Hybrid shows circa 10 fps and then video is not smooth (tennis). It should be 50 fps, what can be wrong?

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I have noticed that when importing file to Hybrid there is written written progressive, framerate 25 fps. When capturing in Virtualdub I can see the lines of interrlaced video. So I don;t know where is the error.

[lordsmurf]

It's always best to run deinterlace in a separate pass, not with other filters. I like Hybrid, but the order-of-operations can be wrong to your needs. It should be deinterlace first, resize next, but it may not be happening here for whatever reason.

[araset]

My file from VirtualDub is seen as progressive in Hybrid but in 25 fps, and when I want to keep interlacing in hybrid and deinterlace it in vlc I can't because it's progressive despite i can see lines of interlaced video. I think I am doing wrong something in capturing but I am not sure what. I am using interleaved 4:2:2 720:576 capture. Thanks for every suggestions. I am using Pinnacle PCTV Hybrid Pro 330e.

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I have installed this HuffYUV codec
https://github.com/hofmand/video-codec-installers
Now my captures can be seen as interlaced file by Hybrid and Media info but unfortunately it's bottom field. When deinterlacing it in vlc bob there is the strange effect of "double frames". It's correct that my capture card captures video in bottom field? How can I change it to capture to top field?

[Gary34]

In the filtering Deinterlace tab check overwrite input scan to and change it to top field first.

https://forum.selur.net/thread-3441.html

[araset]

Thanks. After bob deinterlacing tff it’s not so smooth like deinterlacing in media player classic. Is any way to do it smothly because it’s quick movement (tennis ball)

[Gary34]

Are you de interlacing in Hybrid or VLC and what are you trying to do with your video? Are
You wanting to watch it locally on VLC or are you wanting to upload to YouTube?

[araset]

I want to watch it locally on VLC and enhance it in hybrid and in Da Vinci Resolve like in this tutorial above on YouTube.

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Please anyone could see my sample capture file to see if such shaky picture and image defects can be removed with capturing with Panasonic Es10/15 pass thru?
https://file.io/zqCe0c6cJGMt

[Gary34]

Uploading your video to this site would be a better idea but I’m guessing that is going to be a tough question to answer with certainty.

[araset]

Here is the sample

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wksbuYIifBw&t=10s
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[kimblerulez]

I want to deinterlace Pal with Hybrid and export as avi for further edit, struggling to do this.

[kimblerulez]

Does anyone know how to export as deinterlaced avi from Hybrid, maybe Lordsmurf?

[BarryTheCrab]

I was just getting that jump on a tape using my JVC7800u.
The line TBC did not cure it, but the Stabilizer did (surprise!). Very rare it works.
Of course using the stabilizer shuts off the TBC, so I trade the sporadic jumping for imperfect vertical lines.
As for using Hybrid to deinterlace, yup.
I use Huffyuv so I pick that, adjust to 4:2:2, crop to 704, and in the interlace section pick QTGMC, setting FAST, bob the file to double the frame rate, and pick Top Field First, no matter what it says.
My usual filter is a sharpener, I rarely use any denoiser because that happens in QTGMC anyway.

[lordsmurf]

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Originally Posted by BarryTheCrab

Of course using the stabilizer shuts off the TBC, so I trade the sporadic jumping for imperfect vertical lines.

Add ES10/15 here.

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My usual filter is a sharpener, I rarely use any denoiser because that happens in QTGMC anyway.

QTGMC can also sharpen (or soften). Are you using LSFmod? Remember to avoid oversharpening.

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Originally Posted by kimblerulez

Does anyone know how to export as deinterlaced avi from Hybrid, maybe Lordsmurf?

Video > FFvHuff.
I hate the FFMPEG version of Huffyuv, it's disliked by software. So you start to limited yourself to things like VirtualDub2 (which still has bugs, on things like resize+mask).

I'd rather use ProRes or Ut. And I'm not fond of the unofficial reverse engineered ProRes422, or Ut whatsoever. But it's what we have available.

Hey selur, you there?
Any chance on adding the official Huffyuv? (maybe integrate with both hofmand .msi?)

[kimblerulez]

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Originally Posted by lordsmurf

Video > FFvHuff.

That seems to work OK. Do I leave the FFvHuff settings at default, i.e. Bitdepth - 8 Bit and colour space i444 or change that in the dropdown to i422?

[lordsmurf]

There is no "save default" in Hybrid, but new custom template is required.
But yes.
4:2:2 and YUV, not 4:4:4 RGB.

[kimblerulez]

I thought that I had found a solution. An avi is produced but when imported into Premiere Pro it says that the file is damaged or unsupported, ah well, back to the drawing board.

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Originally Posted by lordsmurf

Hey selur, you there?
Any chance on adding the official Huffyuv? (maybe integrate with both hofmand .msi?)

Ah, I see why you are asking that now as my files won't work because the video stream is Huffyuv version 3

[lordsmurf]

The FourCC is different, and fails to work on most software. Even if you install ffdshow, it can fail.

You can always convert to FFvHuffyuv, then use VirtualDub2 to convert to Huffyuv. My main system refuses to install Huffyuv from hofmand, but I've set up multiple systems that way.

[kimblerulez]

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Originally Posted by lordsmurf

The FourCC is different, and fails to work on most software. Even if you install ffdshow, it can fail.

You can always convert to FFvHuffyuv, then use VirtualDub2 to convert to Huffyuv. My main system refuses to install Huffyuv from hofmand, but I've set up multiple systems that way.

I really appreciate your thought here. That would increase my workflow and my aim is to reduce it. This is what I am trying to do. I capture to avi and want to deinterlace with QTGMC but I want to keep avi format as avi to make all other corrections in Premiere Pro as I am very experienced with it and also it will batch encode to mp4. I have installed avisynth and got it working only to find that I can't find a way to batch encode with it.

[lordsmurf]

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Originally Posted by kimblerulez

I really appreciate your thought here. That would increase my workflow and my aim is to reduce it. This is what I am trying to do. I capture to avi and want to deinterlace with QTGMC but I want to keep avi format as avi to make all other corrections in Premiere Pro as I am very experienced with it and also it will batch encode to mp4. I have installed avisynth and got it working only to find that I can't find a way to batch encode with it.

- capture loss AVI
- write x64 Avisynth script (preview in x64 AvsPmod)
- open in VirtualDub2 x64, with hofmand Huffyuv x64 installed (not the 64-bit Huffyuv, but x86 installed in x64 environment)
- load VirtualDub batches, start batch
- go make cookies, eat the cookies, and come back in a few hours

[kimblerulez]

Thanks for that. I have only just got my head around avisynth. So is this script ok for just deinterlacing with QTGMC?

SetFilterMTMode ("QTGMC", 2)
FFMPEGSource2("1.mp4", atrack=1)
AssumeTFF()
QTGMC(preset="Slower")
BilinearResize(720,576)
Prefetch(10)