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Hello!
(I can feel awkward because I am not good at English!)

I am doing indie music in South Korea!
I'm trying to get an analog video source for MV production.
so I have a few questions.

I have a hi8 camera (Sony CCD-SC7 Hi8 NTSC)
I have a usb capture card (I-O DATA GV-USB2)
No VCR or TBC(Maybe there is no tbc in CCD-SC7)

At first, I was going to convert it to a digital 8 cam.
Then someone said, "Why do you use digital methods while pursuing analog aesthetics?"
He recommended the Videonix MX-1 to me.
There are retro aesthetics and TBC functions, is that a good choice?

If I need them, do you have any VCR,TBC,etc. model recommendations?

Is this enough capture card?
I found out that ATI AIW card and Window XP OS are good,
Are they necessary?

I think the budget is around $1000.
If you need more budget, it will take time, but more is possible.

and.. I'm willing to use the VHS camera later.
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Carrying on from your other topic, here's some stuff on VHS VCRS:

Background info on VCRs:
https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/...VHS-VCR-or-not

VCR recommendations from DigitalFAQ:
http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/vide...ing-guide.html

(I reckon that topic should be in "Workflows", not "Capture".)
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Carrying on from your other topic, here's some stuff on VHS VCRS:

Background info on VCRs:
https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/...VHS-VCR-or-not

VCR recommendations from DigitalFAQ:
http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/vide...ing-guide.html

(I reckon that topic should be in "Workflows", not "Capture".)
oh thanks
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04-09-2022, 11:45 PM
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These are thoughts I have picked up from this site and others:

Best VCR is a SVHS VCR, even though your tapes may be only VHS.

For PAL VCRs, this site is recommended: https://vcrshop.com/category/vcr/vid...a-format=s-vhs

Ebay can be hit or miss.

For NTSC VCRs, best to talk to Lordsmurf (owner of this site).

If getting a VCR without an inbuilt TBC, also get a DVD Recorder for passthrough, which acts as a line TBC. Best for this is the Panasonic ES-10 or 15.

Lordsmurf will also recommend a Frame TBC. In my experience, you could try capturing without one first. By the looks of it, a Frame TBC is the by far most expensive part of the workflow, and you may well get away OK without it.
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04-09-2022, 11:57 PM
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I'm trying to get an analog video source for MV production.
I don't know what this means.

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Then someone said, "Why do you use digital methods while pursuing analog aesthetics?"
So you're shooting analog video?

Quote:
He recommended the Videonix MX-1 to me.
There are retro aesthetics and TBC functions, is that a good choice?
The mixer is fine, but basic compared to even intro NLEs these days. The TBC is pretty crappy, tends to harm the image, not necessarily make it better. The TBC is not for passthrough, but made for the mixing.

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If I need them, do you have any VCR,TBC,etc. model recommendations?
http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/vide...ing-guide.html

Quote:
Is this enough capture card?
I found out that ATI AIW card and Window XP OS are good,
Are they necessary?
Not all ATI AIW are good, the Radeon post-128 AGP/PCI/USB (not PCIe) are what you want. XP only. Necessary for what?

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These are thoughts I have picked up from this site and others:
Best VCR is a SVHS VCR, even though your tapes may be only VHS.
For PAL VCRs, this site is recommended: vcrshop.com
Yes.

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Ebay can be hit or miss.
Mostly miss.

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If getting a VCR without an inbuilt TBC, also get a DVD Recorder for passthrough, which acts as a line TBC. Best for this is the Panasonic ES-10 or 15.
ES10/15 is strong+crippled line TBC, with non-TBC frame sync. The unit has side effects, adds a "digital" quality to videos, various artifacts, issues. It's a budget attempt to bypass TBC, and is very iffy, hit-or-miss. Mostly good for SP mode camcorder tapes, not anything made on VCRs, definitely not retail anything.

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Lordsmurf will also recommend a Frame TBC. In my experience, you could try capturing without one first. By the looks of it, a Frame TBC is the by far most expensive part of the workflow, and you may well get away OK without it.
Rarely "okay" without it. It's almost always an essential tool for conversion.

- line cleans the image
- frame cleasn the signal
You need both.

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