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Despite my explanation, you didn't got the point. So let's try again:

You can do this using the Free version of DIKO.
You can do this using the Free version of DIKO.
You can do this using the Free version of DIKO.
You can do this using the Free version of DIKO.
You can do this using the Free version of DIKO.

Do I need to say it again? You don't have to buy the Gold version to do this, unless of course you feel like it. And just to let you know, I got registred users in many countries, including canada.
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(07/07/2004 - 17h45 - Paris Stock exchange : 1US$ = 1.322 $CAN)

So 19.95 is 26.37 $CAN
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i got what u said
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I still don't see any gain and interest in the roba method then !

Do you have any documentation on this ?
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64886

RoBa _is_ a one-pass variable bitrate method. The Q value is predicted and then used to do a OPV encode. I think that D2S does a second pass if the filesize isn't close enough to the desired value.
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RoBa _is_ a one-pass variable bitrate method. The Q value is predicted and then used to do a OPV encode.
That's what I thought (I called that an "automatic manual prediction") and that has much more interest like this
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cce executable associated with eclcce is not supported
Did you choose the eclCCe instead of CCE in the encoders tab of dvd2svcd
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Did you choose the eclCCe instead of CCE in the encoders tab of dvd2svcd
That is DoCCE that gave him troubles, not DVD2SVCD
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OK i was a little confused but i thought i would answer any way
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diko doesn't let u keep the menu does it?
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No, but do you know any method of putting more than 1 DVD in one KDVD that does?
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u don't have to be such a smartass, I'm trying the program son,
I have never used the program b4 so I did'nt know.
ok another question ... if i set media size to 1500 mb
is that including my audio or just the video?
1 more question, if i don't use the author then what kinda files am i left with m2v & ac3 or vob ?
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u don't have to be such a smartass, I'm trying the program son,
I was not being so. I was just reminding that it's a very hard thing to be done.
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I have never used the program b4 so I did'nt know.
ok another question ... if i set media size to 1500 mb
is that including my audio or just the video?
You don't need to do that. You can feed all movies at once. Leave the media size at the default value, feed one D2V/AC3/SRT for each movie and let it do the job.
You can set movie size to half DVD if you are low in space, but the value in media size counts for audio, video and mux overhead.
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1 more question, if i don't use the author then what kinda files am i left with m2v & ac3 or vob ?
M2V,AC3 and SRT if there's subs.
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thank you ...
i launched the program & it crashed?
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it mighta bin cuz i loaded a .sub file & not srt cuz now it seem to be finding a Q rate & using besweet i'll keep u posted
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first some little(fast)steps choosing the Q factor,then one full pass with the Q factor found to create the .vaf file(if i remember the right name of this pass) and another full pass to do the final encode!
Creating the vaf and then encoding in a second pass is the basis of a 2pass encoding. Then there is NO NEED to determinate a Q factor as the encoding is Average Bitrate based and not Q based
There is NO Q factor setting in CCE when you choose multipass VBR (I just checked)

I still don't see any gain and interest in the roba method then !

Do you have any documentation on this ?

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give the perfect size that you choosed.
For sure, it's a 2pass encoding !

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and yes, you got an VIDEO_TS directory with all ifos and vobs there for each movie
Okay.

EDIT: I wonder is Roba can be an hybrid method between Q encoding and 2pass one. I mean, first pass in Q mode and second in VBR mode ? That is theorically a nonsense...
Phil,you don't listen to me(again)!
choose 2 or 3 or 10 passes using multipass vbr and roba will find the perfect Q for the size
i'm repeating: first little faster encodes to find the Q,another full pass to create the .vaf file and another full encode to get the full size choosed.
this is the only way that i use and i have lots of dvds using this way!
why you don't believe? test it and you got what i'm telling you!
make your test!
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Try an older version (0.62), the latest version is crashing without showing the error message. It will be fixed soon. But most likelly you didn't create the working folder.
Please post your further problems in DIKO Forum so we don't get off topic.
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I still don't see any gain and interest in the roba method then !

Do you have any documentation on this ?
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64886

RoBa _is_ a one-pass variable bitrate method. The Q value is predicted and then used to do a OPV encode. I think that D2S does a second pass if the filesize isn't close enough to the desired value.
Boulder and Phil,
take a look why i'm choosing multipass vbr with Roba in D2s:
see the answers from DDogg,after i did questions and the last post from jsoto about subs.....i only encode like DDogg posted for me and i get perfect sizes!!!!

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...0&pagenumber=1

edited> i forgot to post the link
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I'm not saying shit yet but this looks like it might just work, when i fed it srt file it started working, the only thing is that there was 4 srt files i chose the 1st 1 lol
& sorry next time i have a diko question i'll go to that part'a the forum
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Boulder and Phil,
take a look why i'm choosing multipass vbr with Roba in D2s:
see the answers from DDogg,after i did questions and the last post from jsoto about subs.....i only encode like DDogg posted for me and i get perfect sizes!!!!

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...0&pagenumber=1

edited> i forgot to post the link
Of course you'll get perfect sizes, you're 1) first doing a vaf file creation pass, using the Q value RoBa has predicted and 2) then doing a resize pass using the average bitrate you wish the final output to have.

This method is not the main purpose of the RoBa method. The purpose is to do a 1-pass variable bitrate encode. If the Q value has been predicted accurately, you won't have a large difference between the final filesize and the desired filesize.

Trust me, I know what I'm saying.
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07-07-2004, 01:21 PM
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Phil,you don't listen to me(again)!
I listen to you but YOU do not listen to me (or do not read my post correctly

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i'm repeating: first little faster encodes to find the Q,another full pass to create the .vaf file and another full encode to get the full size choosed.
And I repeat : when you have a first (here second, but that is the first FULL one) pass to create a vaf THEN a second pass to encode the movie THAT IS A 2PASS ENCODING !

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this is the only way that i use and i have lots of dvds using this way!
why you don't believe? test it and you got what i'm telling you!
make your test!
JOREL I'M REALLY PISSED OF READING YOU ALWAYS THINK I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU
YOU do not read me and then you think that
I do not believe you !
And that is always like this

I just explained to you that 1pass for vaf + 1pass for encoding is a 2pass encoding.

What is so hard to understand in this ? Count on you digit : 1 + 1 = 2 ! That is not a matter of english that's MATHS !

And where do you read in this that I do not believe that you do all your DVD like this !

Now, Boulder confirmed what I already thought : Roba is a 1pass Q based method. And you confirm also that there is a very first step where the Q is determined.

So NOW what I have to verify is WHY it needs TWO pass after it find the Q because IN TWO PASS YOU CAN'T SPECIFY THE Q VALUE (this settings does not exists). So doing 2 pass after having found the Q is incompatible.

BUT I DIDN'T SAY THAT YOU ARE WRONG IN WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. I just say (and repeat to be sure you won't take that AGAIN as an attack) that I HAVE to verify what D2SRoba does exactly

EDIT : while I was typing Boulder explained exactly was I was wondering : in fact Roba is an hybrid between Q based (that is one pass) and 2pass encoding !
I have to see how is the result with this because 2pass is generally of less quality than Qbased. But I never thought it was possible to do the 1st pass in Qbased mode and the second pass in VBR mode
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