10-04-2004, 09:57 PM
|
Free Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 28
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
I'm using virtualDubSynch to resolve some A/V synch issues I was having with capturing from VHS.
I pass the hard drive test utility with flying colors, not a single frame drops. However, when I do the internal test or an actual capture I'm dropping anywhere between 15-40% of the frames. So for example, if I capture 200 frames, it says that 60 have dropped. When I use VirtualVCR I don't get any dropped frames, but I'm having other issues with that tool.
My settings are:
Huffyuv compression
44Hz Audio capture
29.976 fps
I've tried various disk IO settings
I've tried VirtualDub v1.5 & 1.6 beta, VirtualDubMod and VirtDubSynch with the same results.
Has anyone seen this behavior?
|
Someday, 12:01 PM
|
|
Site Staff / Ad Manager
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 42
Thanks: ∞
Thanked 42 Times in 42 Posts
|
|
|
10-05-2004, 01:59 AM
|
Free Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Lahti, Finland
Posts: 1,652
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Does it happen only on VHS captures? If so, are the tapes LP or SP recorded?
|
10-05-2004, 05:19 AM
|
Free Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 28
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
It's happening on an EP recorded VCR tape and all so on an 8mm tape. I haven't tried other types of VCR tapes.
|
10-05-2004, 05:23 AM
|
Free Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Lahti, Finland
Posts: 1,652
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
EP is bound to give you problems without proper equipment (a TBC, that is). 8mm might be the same. Capturing any videotape can be really painful because the signal is much weaker than in a regular TV broadcast, that's why you get dropped frames easily. With EP tapes the drops probably happen because the capture card doesn't get a good syncing signal due to the abnormal nature of LP/EP.
|
10-05-2004, 05:27 AM
|
Free Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 28
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
But how come if I use VirtualVCR or iVCR I don't get any dropped frames? If I do the 'test internal' off the capture menu, I also get dropped frames.
It seems like its some configuration issue with VirtDub, don't you think?
|
10-05-2004, 06:07 AM
|
Free Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Lahti, Finland
Posts: 1,652
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
You use WDM drivers, right? VDub is a VfW program, which means that it works best with VfW drivers which are the ones that for example Win98 uses. WinXP uses WDM drivers.
|
10-05-2004, 06:23 AM
|
Free Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Palma de Mallorca - España
Posts: 2,925
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Where I can grab VDSynch?
|
10-05-2004, 06:30 AM
|
Free Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Lahti, Finland
Posts: 1,652
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
When will people learn to use Google before asking?
http://www.virtualdub.net
But you don't really need that one, the same function is in VDubMod as well.
|
10-05-2004, 07:10 AM
|
Free Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Palma de Mallorca - España
Posts: 2,925
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boulder
When will people learn to use Google before asking?
http://www.virtualdub.net
But you don't really need that one, the same function is in VDubMod as well.
|
Why you don't keep your bad taste comments for yourself.
Before I asked I do effectively a search
http://www.google.com/search?q=virtu...utf-8&oe=utf-8
http://www.google.com/search?hl=es&i...+synch&spell=1
Now tell me where in those sarch results see the word virtualdubsynch.
Please, never answer me again with that kind of answer. I prefer that you don't answer my question if you use those answers. I always do a search before ask for something.
Thank you.
|
10-05-2004, 07:25 AM
|
Free Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Lahti, Finland
Posts: 1,652
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Relax.
Your first Google gives no direct links, but I'm sure you know that people don't always spell everything correctly. That's why there is the "Did you mean: virtualdub sync" link which then would have given you the correct link.
|
10-05-2004, 07:32 AM
|
Free Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Palma de Mallorca - España
Posts: 2,925
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boulder
Relax.
Your first Google gives no direct links, but I'm sure you know that people don't always spell everything correctly. That's why there is the "Did you mean: virtualdub sync" link which then would have given you the correct link.
|
Yes, that is the second one.
But I searched for a program called VirtualDubSynch, not for VirtualDub synch techniques, as I understood from second link results, then I did the question here.
|
10-05-2004, 07:49 AM
|
Free Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Lahti, Finland
Posts: 1,652
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
Thinking about it, I don't understand why Google doesn't do the revised search without any user interaction if there are no results from the original search.. some search engines do that and it's sometimes very useful.
|
10-05-2004, 08:22 AM
|
Free Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 28
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
We've gotten a bit off topic here, so how about my last question:
But how come if I use VirtualVCR or iVCR I don't get any dropped frames? If I do the 'test internal' off the capture menu, I also get dropped frames.
Do you think its the driver is you aluded to earlier?
VM? DialHot? any thoughts?
|
10-05-2004, 08:34 AM
|
Free Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Lahti, Finland
Posts: 1,652
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
The driver is probably the issue.
If you use WDM drivers with VirtualDub, it uses the card via a VfW to WDM wrapper. This can cause issues and does require more CPU power. Sometimes it doesn't work at all, in fact I never got WDM drivers working in VDub.
If you don't get dropped frames with VirtualVCR, why don't you use it? It has the dynamic audio resampling feature so it will keep the a/v sync just as VDub Sync.
|
10-05-2004, 08:41 AM
|
Free Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 28
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
I started off using VirtVCR but could never get the audio to synch. It would start off OK, but by then end of the movie be noticably off. Thats the reason I made the switch to VirDub-Synch, which does seem to work , except for dropping frames.
|
10-05-2004, 08:46 AM
|
Free Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Lahti, Finland
Posts: 1,652
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
That's odd, are you sure you had the correct settings? Dynamic audio resampling enabled, no syncing by stream offset.
|
10-05-2004, 10:33 AM
|
Free Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 28
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
I'll give it another go.
|
10-05-2004, 03:43 PM
|
Free Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 28
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
There is a drop down that says 'master stream' in AVI file. Do you know what that is suppose to be set to?
|
10-06-2004, 05:03 AM
|
Free Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Lahti, Finland
Posts: 1,652
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
|
You'll just have to try both ways, could be that 'Audio' works best. There's a forum for VirtualVCR, the link is at sf.net/projects/virtualvcr, you might find the best answers there.
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:53 PM — vBulletin © Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd
|