Best Filters for KSVCD?

the viking · #1 02-09-2005, 08:48 AM

Hello,
In the last two days ive made some KSVCDs with FreeEnc 0.31 and
this script:

Quote:

LoadPlugin("C:\Programfiles\MovieStacker\Filters\M PEG2Dec3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Programfiles\MovieStacker\Filters\d een.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Programfiles\MovieStacker\Filters\r emovegrain.dll")
Mpeg2Source("D:\DVDVolume\VIDEO_TS\franklin.d2v",c pu=4,idct=7)
LanczosResize(464,560,2,0,716,576)#one block overscan
RemoveGrain()
Deen()
TemporalSoften(2,7,7,3,2)
AddBorders(8,8,8,8 )

The movie was a cartoon,Franklin the turtle,50 minutes long,
fullscreen.Encoded with Average bitrate 2017kbps,Max bitrate 2500kbps.
Target one cd 800MB.
If you have a look at the screenshot youll see some noisy/blocky edges around the turtle and around the falling snow.

My question,is there any filters that goes directly to this noise/blocks,
or is the problem lack of bitrate??

thanks
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viking

Dialhot · #2 02-09-2005, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the viking

My question,is there any filters that goes directly to this noise/blocks, or is the problem lack of bitrate??

This is due to the nature of the material : a cartoon.

When I do this I generally heavily filter the chroma and I remove duplicate frames :

Code:

LoadPlugin("C:\Programfiles\MovieStacker\Filters\MPEG2Dec3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Programfiles\MovieStacker\Filters\deen.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Programfiles\MovieStacker\Filters\removegrain.dll")
Mpeg2Source("D:\DVDVolume\VIDEO_TS\franklin.d2v",cpu=4,idct=7)
LanczosResize(464,560,2,0,716,576)#one block overscan
RemoveGrain()
Deen()
TemporalCleaner(3,15)
Dup(threshold=3,maxcopies=3,blend=false)
AddBorders(8,8,8,8 )

the viking · #3 02-09-2005, 09:19 AM

Dialhot wrote:

Quote:

This is due to the nature of the material : a cartoon.

Okay then things seems a little clearer,cause I also did "Garfield-The Movie" here another day,and the results was very good,with no blocks and noise.that one I encoded letterboxed.

okay Ill try the new script,thanks
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viking

Dialhot · #4 02-09-2005, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by the viking

"Garfield-The Movie"

This is not a cartoon ! This is a real movie with a computer animated character.

Note: I saw once a comment about a guy from the Disney family that explained why traditionnal animes are nightmares for encoders (it was about divx, but it's the same for mpeg2) because of how these movies are done : the movement is a following of static celluloids painted manually. And you can't avoid to have little jerking in the positioning of the celluloid from a frame to the next one. Thus there is a slight, invisible, shaking movement arround the edges that turns the encoder nut.

the viking · #5 02-09-2005, 10:19 AM

Dialhot wrote:

Quote:

This is not a cartoon ! This is a real movie with a computer animated character

Yep,I know that

,and the reason I mentioned it was when I encoded it,I got perfect results.That just shows what you are saying is right,its cartoons/animated movies that makes the trouble.
I got the same noise when I encoded Lilo & Stitch and Piglets big movie
(both Disney stuff).

So ill run them both with the script you recommended,and compare
the results.

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viking

Dialhot · #6 02-09-2005, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the viking

Yep,I know that

I read too fast

the viking · #7 02-09-2005, 10:44 AM