Guide to Convert Divx to KVCD - Page 17

bigggt · #**321** 07-05-2004, 09:50 PM

Hi

If you are talking about the actuall WLA just download the TOK extras here

http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3096

Just in case you didn't know TOK at the moment is not being developed any longer so alot of people stopped using it

I still use it once in a while

mef930 · #**322** 07-06-2004, 12:46 AM

I got the information about Tok from one of the guides on this site, "Converting Divx (avi) to KVCD". Are these guides too old and incorrect? Where can I get an up to date guide on how to convert divx(avi) to kvcd?

Thanks for your help.

Dialhot · #**323** 07-06-2004, 03:39 AM

Incorrect, no. Too old, a little bit. Things change everydays so...

Note: WLA is never used by Tok except when you do format conversion (NTSC <-> PAL). There is a place somewhere where it is indicated that you can put there the name of whatever exe you want as Tok will never see it is not WLA

bigggt · #**324** 07-06-2004, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil

WLA is never used by Tok

THats what i though also Phil but wasn't positive so i didn't say

marie1 · #**325** 09-08-2004, 07:26 AM

Hi guys

I am just wondering whether anyone can help me. I have never made a KVCD before and I have found this guide so i thought i would follow it. I have all the applications needed to follow the guide bar one moviestacker. I understand that this is no longer available. I am wondering if anyone can suggest some other applications i could use instead and also guide me through using it.

I have tried to find other guides that don't use moviestacker but have only found one and I followed this guide step by step and for some reason i ended up with a 20g file. Somehow I think that there was an error somewhere.

Please help

Dialhot · #**326** 09-08-2004, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marie1

I am just wondering whether anyone can help me. I have never made a KVCD before and I have found this guide so i thought i would follow it. I have all the applications needed to follow the guide bar one moviestacker. I understand that this is no longer available. I am wondering if anyone can suggest some other applications i could use instead and also guide me through using it.

No need to use any application, just retrieve my last optimal script there :
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7223
And replace the words WIDTH and HEIGHT by the dimensions of the target you want to obtain (ask it if you do'nt know correct values).

marie1 · #**327** 09-08-2004, 08:01 AM

i'm really sorry about this but i have had a look at the link and i am not sure what to do - I am new to this

Dialhot · #**328** 09-08-2004, 08:04 AM

Let say you wan to encode the movie called "C:\KVCD\mymovie.avi" in 544*576 resolution. Just have to save this :

Code:

AviSource("C:\KVCD\mymovie.avi",false)
BlindPP(cpu=4)
Blockbuster(method="noise",detail_min=1,detail_max=3,variance=0.1,seed=1)
Convolution3D(1, 6, 12, 6, 8, 2.8, 0)
GripCrop(544, 576, overscan=1, source_anamorphic=false)
GripSize(resizer="LanczosResize")
Undot()
TemporalSoften(2,7,7,3,2)
DCTFilter(1,1,1,1,1,1,0.5,0)
#Blockbuster(method="noise",detail_min=1,detail_max=10,variance=0.3,seed=5623)
GripBorders()

under the name "C:\KVCD\mymovie.avs"

Then continue the guide you were reading after the "Moviestacker" step.

marie1 · #**329** 09-08-2004, 09:09 AM

is 544*576 the best resolution to use? I'm really sorry i'm sure on resolutions

Dialhot · #**330** 09-08-2004, 09:16 AM

The higher the resolution, the better is the image; but the shorter is the movie you can fit on a CD.

Generally, the recommanded values are :
for a movie up to 1h45 -> 544*480(576)
for a movie up to 2h00 -> 480*480(576)
for a movie up to 2h15 -> 352*480(576)
for a movie above 2h15 -> 352*240(28

544*480(576) means that you have to use 544*480 if you are in NTSC area, and 544*576 if you are in PAL.

marie1 · #**331** 09-08-2004, 10:31 AM

thank you for your help it is really appreciated. I just have one problem.

Quote:

Go to Bitrate and make sure your max bitrate is correct for the
resolution you picked (e.g. 352x240 with max bitrate 1800)

how do i tell what is the max bitrate for 544*480(576)
and also which bitrate does it mean encode audio or the calculated audio?

sorry to be a pain

Dialhot · #**332** 09-08-2004, 03:08 PM

Please forget this guide and use this one :
http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13391

marie1 · #**333** 09-08-2004, 03:38 PM

i'm really sorry but i don't speak or read french. I have been having a fiddle and i think i found out the bitrate myself but when i come to start encoding i get the message window needs to be set to between 8x8and 4088x4088 the width and height of window needs to be multiple of 8.

I'm not sure what to do

Dialhot · #**334** 09-09-2004, 03:10 AM

I strongly suggest you to translate the guide with google ! It is fully illustrated.
The guide you use id TOO OLD and we can't support all old stuff anymore.

The problem you have probably means that you have an error in your script, or that you don't have the correct codec installed.

marie1 · #**335** 09-09-2004, 08:33 AM

ok i will try that - thanks for all your help.

Aielman · #**336** 09-09-2004, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot

The higher the resolution, the better is the image; but the shorter is the movie you can fit on a CD.

Generally, the recommanded values are :
for a movie up to 1h45 -> 544*480(576)
for a movie up to 2h00 -> 480*480(576)
for a movie up to 2h15 -> 352*480(576)
for a movie above 2h15 -> 352*240(28

544*480(576) means that you have to use 544*480 if you are in NTSC area, and 544*576 if you are in PAL.

This is very interesting, Phil. Do these recommendations mean the original resolution of the source doesn't matter? I usually select 352x240 for NTSC sources, but a few months ago I tried to encode a source that was 640x304 - 23.976 fps, and selected 352x480 just to see what will happen. I noticed that TMPG automatically changed the source settings from A First to B First (looks like it turned the source dimension around) and the final encode had people with elongated heads, etc. I haven't tried that again. How would you select say 352x480 if the source is 640x304 and get it to come out right? Thanks.

Dialhot · #**337** 09-09-2004, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aielman

This is very interesting, Phil. Do these recommendations mean the original resolution of the source doesn't matter?

No. There is a rule above all other ones : NEVER ENLARGE A VIDEO.

So if your source is :

Quote:

I usually select 352x240 for NTSC sources,

Then you shouldn't use other things than 352x240.

Quote:

but a few months ago I tried to encode a source that was 640x304 - 23.976 fps, and selected 352x480 just to see what will happen. I noticed that TMPG automatically changed the source settings from A First to B First (looks like it turned the source dimension around) and the final encode had people with elongated heads, etc.

This hjave nothing to do with filed order (btw, no tool can guess it automatically so even if tmpgenc suggest you to change it, YOU are the one that have to set the correct order).
Your problem is related to A/R settings that are under the filed order one.

Quote:

How would you select say 352x480 if the source is 640x304 and get it to come out right? Thanks.

Simply set the A/R for source on 1:1 (or 4:3 if you use an avisynth script as source), and the destination A/R to 4:3 (or 4:3 525 line NTSC). And also set the video arrangemetn method to "center".

Aielman · #**338** 09-09-2004, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dialhot

So if your source is :

Quote:

I usually select 352x240 for NTSC sources,

Then you shouldn't use other things than 352x240.

No, I meant that no matter the source resoultion I usually encoded in 352x240(28

, maybe because when I first started doing video encodes vcd easy warned any time I used a different resolution that it was 'not a standard vcd resolution' when I was ready to burn.

Dialhot · #**339** 09-10-2004, 08:03 AM

VcdEasy does not complain anymore. You even have a checkbox "accept KVCD video" in the options

asp · #**340** 11-24-2006, 08:58 PM

Phil, how is it that this site has a guide explaining DIVX --> KVCD, since ur last reply reiterates that one is not supposed to discuss DIVX related issues on the forums.