well ive been playing with all the temps again, and i thought i tried this before but i guess not. The KVCDx3 temp changed to 352x480 or 480x480 (MPEG2) work great, no skips, jerks, glitches or anything. maybe its the new matrix and temp updates that made the difference. I can leave them both at 300min now, along with the filters and prediction, I am very happy........anyone that had problems in the past, should try it out again with the new temps and see if it works for you.

AD-660 plays KVCD x3 at 544x480 very well even if the fps is 23.976.

FYI, these type of players also play x3 at 720x480 even better.

Not sure about other Apex, but "my" AD660 will not play at those settings, I have had this model for 4 years, and trust me i have tried just about everything and every setting, it is very fickle about what it wants to play.

352x240(28 no problem as long as i set the min to 600 or more and just recently with MPEG2 352(480)x480 only.

these are with the KVCD temps.........