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08-18-2024, 10:58 AM
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My name is Ton and I live in Belgium but I am Dutch.
In 2014 I bought a P4 desktop for capturing VHS SP tapes and I also bought a ATI AIW 9800Pro and a ATI AIW 8500DV. Everything was working fine, capturing tapes in MPEG2. A year later I was diagnosed with cancer and had to stop capturing vhs and store this PC. Last july I got it out of storage and de PC was still working but the 9800Pro displayed blocks of green/red horizontal lines. The 8500DV was not working at all. They both were working fine when the PC was stored. I bought an other 9800Pro from the Dutch Marktplaats. This worked fine for a few days but now the same problems accure . When I capture in MPEG2 the image is good but when the blocks appaer on the screen the capture is also showing blocks. The ATI gets very hot and I think this may be a heating problem.
It's no driver problem because sometimes the blocks also turnup during startup.

My system:
MSI MS-6728 ver 2: P4 3.0 GHz, 3 GB ram, 128 SSD
Windows XP sp2

VCR JVC HR -S8600EU, Panasonic NV-FS200
DVD Recorder JVC DR-M10

The following capture devices:

Hauppauge PVR 350
Pinnacle 710-USB
Tevion Hispeed dvd maker with TI TVP5150AM1 Empia EM2860 Empia EMP202

Playback device:
Oppo UDR 203

Is there a solution for my problem with the ATI 9800pro?
Or should I replace the ATI with a AGP display card and start using one of the other capture devices?

Thanks in advance
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08-21-2024, 01:23 PM
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Hi,
I suppose you have tried reinstalling the whole operating system and drivers, and thus as you say a driver problem can be discarded. The three failed AGP cards with overheating problems make me think it could be all about a degraded or damaged power supply (be it the power supply itself, or some intermediate power converter on the motherboard) that doesn't provide a clean voltage to the AGP slot, and that has irreversibly damaged all your AGP cards. That would be consistent with the fact that the PC was working correctly in 2015, but later on had some degradation on the power supply components (mainly the electrolytic capacitors), damaging all the AGP cards when you turned it on again recently. Another possibility is that all the cards have received an electrostatic discharge (ESD) during their manipulation outside the computer, or during the connection of the component video cables with the VCR, but I think the bad power supply theory has a better chance.
If you really want to use any other ATI AGP card, I would first replace the power supply, and then check the motherboard for any bulging or leaking electrolytic capacitor that could indicate a power supply problem, before putting another card at risk. I would no longer use this computer until these components have been verified, as it could keep damaging other parts, so I would discard capturing with it using any of your other available cards. From your available capture devices I think the only one with the seal of approval of this forum is the Pinnacle 710, you could investigate if it is compatible with newer computers than this P4 setup.
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08-25-2024, 06:06 AM
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A board component was likely impacted and damaged at some point.

I've seen this too many times. A lot of idiot eBay sellers mail AGP/PCI/etc computer cards in envelopes, rather than properly in sturdy boxes with ample padding and packing material. Cards are very fragile, and cannot stand up to any abuse. Even a slight tap in the wrong place can render a card non-functional forever.

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