Could anyone grade my capture?

[KirVHS]

I did 1 minute fragment then i converted from avi to mp4 (also from pcm to aac)
My VCR: Samsung SV-DVD 645p
Capture Device: Pinnacle Dazzle DVC 100
Color System: MESECAM (Not be confused SECAM)
The source and deinterlaced result are there

[themaster1]

* flagging on top (no tbc obviously)
* red/pink vertical bar on the right (typical of secam and variants) -> can be removed
* deinterlacing seem ok (hard to tell with that kind of footage though)

It's an average rating of 5/10.... and i feel generous today

[KirVHS]

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Originally Posted by themaster1

* flagging on top (no tbc obviously)
* red/pink vertical bar on the right (typical of secam and variants) -> can be removed
* deinterlacing seem ok (hard to tell with that kind of footage though)

It's an average rating of 5/10.... and i feel generous today

Thanks for review! Intro itself have a low fps.
Later I would share more short captures, the deinterlacer was QTGMC with custom settings

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Originally Posted by themaster1

* flagging on top (no tbc obviously)
* red/pink vertical bar on the right (typical of secam and variants) -> can be removed
* deinterlacing seem ok (hard to tell with that kind of footage though)

It's an average rating of 5/10.... and i feel generous today

How I could remove red/pink bar? By cutting video itself?
Edit: I used Hybrid to Deinterlace I hope it have a grey filter on there

[Gary34]

The Luma clips too. It looks like it might me pretty visually noisy when I see the very end of the clip but the rest of it clips in the brights to where you can’t see much of anything including noise. Even if you didn’t mess with any of that I would get rid of that high pitch squealing sound in an audio editor. That sound is annoying I think.

[KirVHS]

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Originally Posted by Gary34

The Luma clips too. It looks like it might me pretty visually noisy when I see the very end of the clip but the rest of it clips in the brights to where you can’t see much of anything including noise. Even if you didn’t mess with any of that I would get rid of that high pitch squealing sound in an audio editor. That sound is annoying I think.

I didnt have enough experience with audio tweaking but i'll try

[Gary34]

Why not direct stream copy with virtualdub and upload a losslessly compressed codec like Huffy here? I can't really play these back in Virtualdub or check the levels in Pmod. I can't get the WAV file from it with Virtualdub.

I am not good with Audio either. Timtape and a few others are the good people with audio. This isn't hard to improve though. I just use Audacity but there are definitely better editing programs. I took the audio from your video using VLC and converted it to FLAC then brought that into Audacity. I looked at the spectogram and used the filter curve effect to take off everything over 7,000hz because your good audio was under that and the high frequency noises were above that. Then I used the part with just noise at the end of your clip to get a noise profile that I could use for noise reduction on the entire clip. Then I normalized the peak audio to around -6db. Then Exported it as a WAV file. Not perfect but it sounds better.

[KirVHS]

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Originally Posted by Gary34

Why not direct stream copy with virtualdub and upload a losslessly compressed codec like Huffy here? I can't really play these back in Virtualdub or check the levels in Pmod. I can't get the WAV file from it with Virtualdub.

I am not good with Audio either. Timtape and a few others are the good people with audio. This isn't hard to improve though. I just use Audacity but there are definitely better editing programs. I took the audio from your video using VLC and converted it to FLAC then brought that into Audacity. I looked at the spectogram and used the filter curve effect to take off everything over 7,000hz because your good audio was under that and the high frequency noises were above that. Then I used the part with just noise at the end of your clip to get a noise profile that I could use for noise reduction on the entire clip. Then I normalized the peak audio to around -6db. Then Exported it as a WAV file. Not perfect but it sounds better.

Well, I’m using AmaRec, because for my now setup it’s the best choice.

[Gary34]

Your capture is pretty bad. Maybe a 2 or a 3. There is a lot of room for improvement with your gear.

[KirVHS]

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Originally Posted by Gary34

Your capture is pretty bad. Maybe a 2 or a 3. There is a lot of room for improvement with your gear.

I knew, especially i need a TBC, and learn how to remove this line (Hooray SECAM/MESECAM stupidity)

[KirVHS]

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Originally Posted by Gary34

Why not direct stream copy with virtualdub and upload a losslessly compressed codec like Huffy here? I can't really play these back in Virtualdub or check the levels in Pmod. I can't get the WAV file from it with Virtualdub.

I am not good with Audio either. Timtape and a few others are the good people with audio. This isn't hard to improve though. I just use Audacity but there are definitely better editing programs. I took the audio from your video using VLC and converted it to FLAC then brought that into Audacity. I looked at the spectogram and used the filter curve effect to take off everything over 7,000hz because your good audio was under that and the high frequency noises were above that. Then I used the part with just noise at the end of your clip to get a noise profile that I could use for noise reduction on the entire clip. Then I normalized the peak audio to around -6db. Then Exported it as a WAV file. Not perfect but it sounds better.

I think due to this method causing to me a asynch audio and video.

[KirVHS]

New capture!
Now i captured Le miracle de l'amour in ORT (ОРТ), yep MESECAM once again...
But i made some improvements.
Im so sad bc this is isnt a true SECAM (although they are SO RARE even HiFi recordings isnt rare)

[Gary34]

Why are you capturing to H.264 in an AVI container? It's better for editing later to capture to a losslessly compressed codec. Your Luma is clipping again.

[KirVHS]

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Originally Posted by Gary34

Why are you capturing to H.264 in an AVI container? It's better for editing later to capture to a losslessly compressed codec. Your Luma is clipping again.

Larger size, then i need to convert to mp4 for a Telegram (Which is isnt good bc 4gb limit with premium and 2 gb without)

And we set to 6600k bitrate for nice capturing but if i use any LOSSLESS codecs it mean that i will say farewell to my disk space

Edit: Maybe i should to make a lower brightness to get rid of Luma clipping
EditNO2: I think i found resolution!
EditNO3: 432MB for 47 sec!? Jeez... thats why i use h264

[Gary34]

Disk space is really cheap. Just capture to an old 5400 or 7200 RPM HDD. It would be a lot better if you would capture losslessly compressed codec and filter in Selur’s Hybrid. Your footage would benefit a lot from filters because it is very noisy. That noise is messing with your H.264 lossy compression off the bat. Lossless would capture everything and let you deal with it in software then do a lossy compression. I think a lot of the noise is from your gear being low end but I don’t know that.

[KirVHS]

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Originally Posted by Gary34

Disk space is really cheap. Just capture to an old 5400 or 7200 RPM HDD. It would be a lot better if you would capture losslessly compressed codec and filter in Selur’s Hybrid. Your footage would benefit a lot from filters because it is very noisy. That noise is messing with your H.264 lossy compression off the bat. Lossless would capture everything and let you deal with it in software then do a lossy compression. I think a lot of the noise is from your gear being low end but I don’t know that.

Ik, but lets not forget my location, most of digitizers are in AVer Media/Behold.
and i need to compress to other codec.
And yep im using Hybrid but idk what setting i should aprove, and after in hybrid i will compress to X264.
I will send examples of Lagarith then converted to X264 then only x264

[lordsmurf]

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Originally Posted by KirVHS

Ik, but lets not forget my location

I really feel for you. What you need is so simple, and yet availability, or shipping, and/or maybe costs, are a true barrier here. You really need a line TBC of some sort. Something, anything, is better than nothing. If you can afford shipping costs (~$100), I can see what we can do for you.

[KirVHS]

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Originally Posted by lordsmurf

I really feel for you. What you need is so simple, and yet availability, or shipping, and/or maybe costs, are a true barrier here. You really need a line TBC of some sort. Something, anything, is better than nothing. If you can afford shipping costs (~$100), I can see what we can do for you.

I found a Panasonic DMR ES18 for 4000 rubles with working dvd (it’s around 40-50 dollars) in Avito, I will buy it.

[lordsmurf]

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Originally Posted by KirVHS

I found a Panasonic DMR ES18 for 4000 rubles with working dvd (it’s around 40-50 dollars) in Avito, I will buy it.

To answer your question, before it was edited, I'm not 100% certain ES18 has the line TBC. It may, it probably does, but the only way to know is by buying and testing. And when you do, we can settle that unknown. If it does have the line TBC(ish), I would equally enjoy seeing before/after clips, specifically for your situation.

[KirVHS]

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Originally Posted by lordsmurf

To answer your question, before it was edited, I'm not 100% certain ES18 has the line TBC. It may, it probably does, but the only way to know is by buying and testing. And when you do, we can settle that unknown. If it does have the line TBC(ish), I would equally enjoy seeing before/after clips, specifically for your situation.

I asked one digitizer with profession setup, he said it got a TBC.

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Originally Posted by KirVHS

I asked one digitizer with profession setup, he said it got a TBC.

I also found a DMR E-55 which got a TBC
https://youtu.be/yuETVbsK5WQ?si=xwErwpeEZ82nZi0I
And he is cost 3950 and he is in my town! So if i buy it i will sure that i havent need to wait shipping time.

[lordsmurf]

That may work fine, $50 is fair.