Procoder 2.0 Flags Question

MBates05 · #1 01-02-2006, 03:10 PM

I was wondering what the flags were that are shown after importing a source? I have somewhat of an idea but wanted to know if you could explain it further. I am looking to remove the original copyrighted flag from a video source that is under the audio section.

Matt

admin · #2 01-02-2006, 03:52 PM

The audio copyright flag really does not mean much for homemade content. But it must be turned on becuase the DVD spec requires it.

As far as other options, you'll have to specify which one you want more information on, there are so many settings available to MPEG, and most of them have certain requirements to be DVD-Video specification.

MBates05 · #3 01-02-2006, 04:35 PM

The source is an MPEG2 and it comes up under the audio part original copyrighted. I am looking to remove it becuase the film is in public domain and I am looking to use it for commercial purposes. I am mostly interested in this flag in particular.

admin · #4 01-07-2006, 01:57 PM

I don't really know the answer to this one. I'll have to ask some associates of mine that work in the commercial video industry.

admin · #5 01-08-2006, 09:41 AM

From what I've been told, simply re-encoding it wipes out the previous flags. They must be reset every time you re-encode. Not specifying new data should leave them blank.

MBates05 · #6 01-15-2006, 02:24 PM

Re-encoding it definitley does remove the flags, but some reason the video is choppy. It's probably due to my error. Would you be able to help me with this? The video when played on dvd looks as if two frames are playing at once especially when there is a lot of movement. It looks similar to the deinterlaced or interlaced (I forgot which one) thundercats screenshots in one of the guides on this site. I'm thinking i screwed up those settings somehow

admin · #7 01-15-2006, 02:43 PM

There are two places to make the proper interlace settings. One when you import the source file, and another where you set up the MPEG encoder settings. These must match, and both of them must match your source file. To learn what the source file uses, analyze it with GSPOT v2.5 (not 2.2). In GSPOT, it will show TFF (top field), BFF (bottom field), or PROG (progressive, non-interlaced).

This, of course, assumes you're using interlaced source that was not butchered in advance.

You will also see ghosting is you change the framerate from PAL 25fps to NTSC 29.97, as it has to create 4 additional frames per second, and by default Procoder merges frames to accomplish this. If you are doing this, there are ways to adjust it. But software PAL->NTSC conversion just does not look good, regardless of software. The only real way to accomplish high quality PAL->NTSC is with video hardware, usually a $10k Snell & Willcox machine used by broadcasters and studios. If you're not sure if your source is PAL ot NTSC, again, use GSPOT and analyze the fps.

Decide what is causing your error. And then if you need images to show where settings are, in order to fix the problem, let me know.

MBates05 · #8 01-16-2006, 06:42 AM

The problem ended up being that the source and target interlacing specs did not match up in procoder. I set them to the correct spec and re-encoded the video and it plays fine when I author it to DVD. The only thing I was concerned about was that the file originally was 232MB being an mpeg file and then when I re-encoded it the file ended up being 356MB being an m2p file. I originally thought that choosing the mpeg target wwas the same thing.What settings would I need to re-encode the file without increasing the file size?

admin · #9 01-16-2006, 03:05 PM

What is the bitrate and resolution of the original file? Analyze in GSPOT.

MBates05 · #10 01-16-2006, 03:59 PM

resolution 720x480
Sys Bitrate: 10080 kb/s VBR

MBates05 · #11 01-16-2006, 04:04 PM

or is this itkbps 4500 I assume it is what I originally posted but just wanted to make sure

MBates05 · #12 01-24-2006, 01:37 PM

Sorry I realized that I gave you the wrong numbers.

bitrate 6900
res 720x480 - MBates05

admin · #13 02-11-2006, 05:52 PM

Gspot only reports the max bitrate in the MPEG bitrate flag. Very often a flag is much higher than the actual max used. You have to analyze the bitrate in a bitrate analysis tool to see it's true min/avg/max.

Filesize being too large is a result of bitrate being too high. You can lower your numbers. I would need to know the running time of the file (and desired resolution) to give a suggested range of bitrate.

MBates05 · #14 02-12-2006, 04:28 AM

What would be a bitrate analysis tool I could use for that.I know you have been very busy lately, but I was just wondering if you had a chance to look at my email about the consulting.

admin · #15 03-11-2006, 05:38 PM

This bitrate viewer should work well for you: http://www.tecoltd.com/bitratev.htm

I did reply to your first e-mail, but with all the server issues last month, there's no telling what happened to it. I'll see if I still have your original message and reply again sometime next week.