Using Deshake filter in Hybrid?

[BelowZero]

I have captured some footage from some old 8mm film. I'm looking for a way to smooth out the video and get rid of some of the slight jitter that is present. I noticed in Hybrid under the Filters tab under FFmpeg, there is a Deshake clickbox. I thought I would try to see if that helped but am not sure about the settings. Can anybody give some direction or pointers about the best settings for a smoother video? Thanks.

[lordsmurf]

I've never gotten good results in Deshake. I've tried, for almost 20 years now.

johnmeyer and myself were discussing it back in 2006, and we still disagree -- though he concedes better methods exist, and does some himself, as do I.

It depends on the damage type, payware Mercalli can work well (new version is terrible), freeware Avisynth, sometimes payware Adobe After Effects. I've done all of those.

I need the full section to be stabilized, via Google, Dropbox, MS One, Apple iCloud, etc. I can't take time to run a detailed model of it, but I can tell you what works best from a quick glance, maybe even output a quick semi-corrected version. You can then tweak on your own.

[BelowZero]

Thanks LS.
I ran the video with the Deshake filter in Hybrid and got horrible results. Actually made the jitter worse. Just used the default settings, but it doesn't look like that will work for me. I believe there's a filter in VirtualDub that some have said works well but I haven't tried it yet. If I have time I'll try to upload a sample for you.
Hope you're doing well!

[Selur]

When using Hybrid, maybe try "Filtering->Vapoursynth->Frame->Stab" or "Filtering->Vapoursynth->Frame->StabilizeIT".
I agree with lordsmurf without a sample giving any good advice isn't really possible.

If using FFmpeg is the goal, reading the documentation about deshake and vidstabdetect might help:
https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-all.html#deshake
https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-all.html#toc-vidstabdetect-1

Cu Selur

[lordsmurf]

stab() is quite good and useful, I've usede it many times. But it's for minor movement, and pure X/Y adjustments (no skew, no zoom, etc). It has it's place in a restoration toolkit.

StabilizeIT is interesting. That may be the filter that makes me learn Vapoursynth.

[BelowZero]

Thank you both for your insight.

Before I post a sample, I'm going to try the capture with a different projector and camera. It could be my old projector is causing the problem and I'd much rather have the best capture possible before invoking a software fix. I'll have to experiment and compare the results. Should the jitter still appear I will post a sample and see what you think.