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09-11-2005, 09:50 AM
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It began to bother me so I dug it out:

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The window of 720 is 53,333µs
The window of 704 is 52,148µs
The window of TV is 52,000µs

So 704 comes nearest to the TV. All other higher widths can only bee seen on a NON Analogue TV device like a PC Monitor
What comes to 352x576(480), the standalone has to extrapolate the "lost details" because the resolution is not enough for a full TV image.
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Used 704x576 as res, min 100, max 4500 bitrate. Encoded with tmpgenc with different cq factor for each movie, with revolutions at cq 64.
Did you encode all 3 movies at the same time or seperatly?
if you encoded seperatly did you use 4500 birate for each one ?
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09-12-2005, 02:57 AM
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Did you encode all 3 movies at the same time or seperatly?
Seperatly.

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f you encoded seperatly did you use 4500 birate for each one ?
Hm, i think I used max 4600 for revolutions, cq 64. The rest 4500, maybe matrix 1 at 4400. I did many tests, by now I don't remember very well.
I do know that matrix 1 and 2 were below cq 64.

Use most space for revolutions, as it has the most "encoder nightmare" scenes
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09-12-2005, 05:37 AM
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As far as I know only projectors and maybe plasma screens are not affected by overscan.
Every digital device is not affected. Analog ones are. So old "3-eyes" projector are also affected.
What about Widescreen TV (LCD) ???
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09-12-2005, 06:02 AM
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What about Widescreen TV (LCD) ???
Plasma, DLP and LCD are digital (they all use a matrix based display).
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09-12-2005, 09:18 AM
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a) It depends how the internal Tuner A/D Device handles the broadcasted signal to be displayed on a digital device.
Assume they wouldnt have any overscan, this would result in ugly edged broadcastings - do some analogue caps (or even digital ones) and youll see what I mean. So the "Overscan" is kind of simulated by upsizing to the overscanned out-of-bounds factor of for example 1024x768 on a 4:3 LCD TV.
Thats also the fact in case of DVB Transeivers when passing digital data via DVI through.

b) These pics above are VERY nice, no doubt. But when I did encode my Matrix episodes to KVCD or MVCD on two ones I was even able to put a second language mp2@128kbit Audiotrack on the CD-R. Means, Matrix Episodes do have quick motion and much action BUT the "whipped cream" for the encoder is the in relative very big amount of dark parts in the whole framecount. That makes things even much more compressable. Same thing when encoding "Seven" for instance. Do your test and you see how the CQ rises when predictionning to a common target size compared to other movies.
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10-20-2005, 12:07 AM
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How would my results be if I converted matrix from .ts and then put 3 of them on one disc ? Is it worth it or should I just stick to encoding it at 1920x1088 in xvid ?
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10-20-2005, 12:24 AM
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How would my results be if I converted matrix from .ts
What exactly do you mean by .ts
I hope it's not Tele Sync, because if it is, the posts will be deleted.

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10-20-2005, 02:38 AM
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.ts = TransportStream

A resulted stream out of a DVB streaming. Which should be kept at its max Detailed res. 1920x1088., so I'd go for x264 encoding on that and putting it into a mp4 or even better mkv container.
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10-20-2005, 04:52 AM
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To answer directly to the question : using your HDTV ts as source is even better than using the DVD. So if you convert them into KDVD, you will have the same quality in the result as the one exposed here.

OT (nothing to do with KDVD) :there is a new tool to do HDTV ts -> DVD in one shot

http://www.svcd2dvd.com/HDTV2DVD/
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10-21-2005, 01:45 PM
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Incredible is right, thanks. Sorry I should have specified what I was asking. I just used hdtv2dvd on a small sample and it encoded it pretty fast im surprised. I am not sure if converting from hdtv to dvd is faster than converting it to divx/xvid or not but thats what it seems like. I want to also make my own matrix trilogy in one disc like gamma has done but my main concern is that I am loosing resolution when i convert to kdvd..in other words my source is 1080i and the end file I get is 720x480. Does loosing resolution matter ? If it does I would rather convert it to another format.
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10-22-2005, 09:17 AM
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Does loosing resolution matter ? If it does I would rather convert it to another format.
Of course it does, else the HDTV woudn't have come to life.
How ever, I have bid doubts that you can put the trilogy on a single DVD if you keep the HDTV resolution even in Xvid. Why ? Because for such resolution you will have to keep a high average bitrate, probably over 2500 Kbit/s. And this won't let you put the 6H on a disc.

You can try new codecs like H264 or RV10, it should be better, but I still have doubts.
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10-22-2005, 10:30 AM
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Can i choose 1920x1088 resolution in tmpgenc ?
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10-22-2005, 12:01 PM
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Yes.
If the settings is greyed, then load the template called 'unlock.mcf' that is delivered with tmgenc. It will free all the settings and let you change them.
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11-19-2005, 04:47 AM
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i am new member.actually i want to know that which software i have to use for this work
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11-19-2005, 08:12 AM
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i am new member.actually i want to know that which software i have to use for this work
Please go through the guides available, but just FYI, avisynth, TMPGEnc(with readavs.dll configured) and knowledge of avisynth filters would be required for the Video conversion. For audio use besweet or Headac3he.
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12-05-2006, 07:22 PM
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hey gamma , can i see the script that you did?
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12-05-2006, 07:33 PM
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Just used a simple removegrain() and stmedianfilter(3,3,1,1).
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12-06-2006, 01:03 PM
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Just used a simple removegrain() and stmedianfilter(3,3,1,1).
Yup

But, I would definitely try lremovedust now.
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