ATI All-in-Wonder X800 VE & ATI All-in-Wonder X800 XL

[rickface]

Hi all,

I wanted to check in on a detail regarding the "classic" series cards (listed here, pasted below); as there are so many variations, I didn't want to make a purchasing error before I started.

On the list below, I see the ATI All-in-Wonder X800 VE (AGP 8x). Whilst I haven't located that specific card, I have found a ATI All-in-Wonder X800 XL (AGP), which apparently still uses the Theatre 200 chipset, but is a slightly higher end model?

Would this model variation also be considered one of the classic series cards? Safe to buy for use in the workflow listed on the site (XP / Virtual Dub)?

Sub-question: Do I need to worry about its provenance (e.g. NTSC vs PAL/SECAM)? All my tapes are NTSC and I live in France, so just wanted to make sure I didn't need to source an NTSC version.

Thanks in advance!

ChatGPT list of card differences:

Feature	ATI All-in-Wonder X800 XL (AGP)	ATI All-in-Wonder X800 VE (AGP)
GPU Core	R420	R430
Performance	Higher performance due to more shaders	Lower performance, fewer shaders
Pixel Pipelines	16	12
Clock Speeds	Higher core and memory clocks	Slightly lower core and memory clocks
Release Position	Positioned as a high-end card	Positioned as a mid-range card
AGP Interface	AGP 8x	AGP 8x
Multimedia Features	Both have the Theatre 200 chipset for video capture and TV tuning functionality.
Availability	Rarer and more expensive	More common and affordable

List:
PCI: (Rage Theatre chipset)

• ATI All-in-Wonder VE Radeon 7500

AGP: (Rage Theatre chipset)

• ATI All-in-Wonder 128 Pro
• ATI All-in-Wonder Radeon (7200)
• ATI All-in-Wonder Radeon 7500
• ATI All-in-Wonder Radeon 8500 / AIW 8500 DV

AGP: (Theatre 200 chipset)

• ATI All-in-Wonder 9000
• ATI All-in-Wonder 9200
• ATI All-in-Wonder 9600 / AIW 9600 XT / AIW 9600 Pro
• All-in-Wonder 9700 Pro (PAL)
• All-in-Wonder 9800 Pro
• ATI All-In-Wonder 2006 Edition (AGP 8x)
• ATI All-in-Wonder X800 VE (AGP 8x)

PCI Express: (Theatre 200 chipset)

• ATI All-In-Wonder 2006 Edition PCI-E
• ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon X600 Pro
• ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon X800 XL
• ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon X1800 XL
• ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon X1900

[rickface]

Looking around it appears that Lord Smurf might have answered this here, but a confirmation would still be good if possible! Also on the NTSC question

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordsmurf

There's no reason that other x800 cards were not listed. Those are fine, too.

The 550 cards are not better, no. Different chipsets and software is involved.

Just remember that Windows XP is required. So a build specifically for capture is ideal. Get a good dual-core, quad-core, or even single-core, using AGP, PCIe or PCI ATI AIW cards. Save modern editing/web/etc for a new Win7+ build.