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12-02-2018, 02:19 PM
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The ATI USB2.0 N (dongle) from 2005 [Theater 200 chip] is supported on Apple Mac OSX - EyeTV. I have a copy of EyeTV 3 on a Mac Mini running 10.6.8, so I plugged it in. EyeTV threw open a window with the output from the USB2.0 N

It supports Tuner, S-Video or Composite for NTSC, PAL and SECAM.

Recording presets are:

Video CD
589 MB per hour
352x240 29.97 fps 1.15 Mbps CBR, IBP frames
Audio 44.1 kHz, 224 kbps

Standard (DVD 120 min)
1.8 GB per hour DVD-compliant MPEG-2
Video: 352x480, 29.97 fps, 4.0 Mbps VBR (6.0 Mbps max), I frames only
Audio: 48 kHz, 224 kbps

High (DVD 90 min)
2.7 GB per hour DVD-compliant MPEG-2
Video: 720x480, 29.97 fps, 6.0 Mbps VBS (8.0 Mbps max), I frame only
Audio: 48.0 kHz, 384 kbps

I would rather capture without compression, does anyone have any ideas how to do that?

Thanks


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File Type: jpg ATI TV Wonder 2.0N for Mac.jpg (79.1 KB, 16 downloads)
File Type: jpg ATI TV Wonder 2.0N for Mac (2).jpg (60.1 KB, 10 downloads)
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12-02-2018, 03:59 PM
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Oh, man ... it figures ... my Mac is down right now.

I need to test this ASAP.
What sort of default compression is it applying?
Do you have an extra copy of EyeTV3? I don't think I have it anymore, no Elgato cards.

In fact, I didn't know you used Mac. I may have a favor to ask.

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12-02-2018, 05:21 PM
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What sort of default compression is it applying?
MediaInfo Data Display info is attached as a separate txt file.

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Do you have an extra copy of EyeTV3?
Here is a download location for the version used.
Download eyetv 3 Version 3.6.9 (7524) HEVC


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In fact, I didn't know you used Mac. I may have a favor to ask.
Sure, anytime

Code:
General
ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
Complete name                            : C:\0000000021b46dca.mpg
Format                                   : MPEG-TS
File size                                : 48.2 MiB
Duration                                 : 57 s 190 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 6 727 kb/s
FileExtension_Invalid                    : ts m2t m2s m4t m4s tmf ts tp trp ty

Video
ID                                       : 34 (0x22)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : MPEG Video
Format version                           : Version 2
Format profile                           : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP                    : No
Format settings, Matrix                  : Default
Format settings, GOP                     : N=1
Format settings, picture structure       : Frame
Codec ID                                 : 2
Duration                                 : 57 s 224 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 6 007 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 8 000 kb/s
Width                                    : 720 pixels
Height                                   : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Standard                                 : NTSC
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Interlaced
Scan order                               : Top Field First
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.580
Time code of first frame                 : 00:00:00:00
Time code source                         : Group of pictures header
GOP, Open/Closed                         : Open
Stream size                              : 41.0 MiB (85%)

Audio
ID                                       : 35 (0x23)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : MPEG Audio
Format version                           : Version 1
Format profile                           : Layer 2
Codec ID                                 : 3
Duration                                 : 57 s 207 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 384 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 41.667 FPS (1152 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 2.62 MiB (5%)


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File Type: txt EyeTV-Elgato-ATI-USB2.0.txt (2.8 KB, 10 downloads)

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12-10-2018, 02:44 PM
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Elgato brochure for the (NTSC) EyeTV Wonder USB 2.0

Elgato brochure for the (PAL/SECAM) EyeTV Wonder USB 2.0


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File Type: pdf PALSECAM-DataSheet_wonder_E.pdf (245.4 KB, 11 downloads)
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12-10-2018, 10:25 PM
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Sorry to resurrect a really old thread but was there ever a solution to capturing uncompressed with the ATI USB2.0 on a Mac (High Sierra)? Thanks
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Also following, I'm not sure I have a Mac around that has an old enough OS on it to try that with unfortunately.

LS, did you ever test it back then that you can recall?
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My OS X 10.6 Mac Mini stopped working a few years ago, during pandemic, user error (oops), and I've not fixed it yet. I had the software on it. Never any free time. Reason for taking sorta-kinda break now. That's summer project.

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Thanks for the reply guys. Only reason I ask is that I had read one of jwillis's posts about devices that can capture uncompressed on a mac and he listed the ATI AIW USB2.0 as one of them. As far as I am aware, it only works with the Elgato Eyetv 3 software and that has no option for uncompressed so I was really curious if I am missing something (like being able to edit a config file adding uncompressed as an option) or if there is other software that can do it.
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