DVDStyler no audio on ISO?

[BrainRotTrash]

Hey guys

Hoping you can help me figure out why i'm not getting audio when testing the ISO I made from DVDStyler in VLC. I have not tried to burn an actual disc with it, since i'm not getting audio from the ISO.

First, I was trying to make a disc with PCM audio, which I discovered after reading that DVDStyler cannot do, even though the option is there and my source video has it. Next I tried AC3, and still no audio.

I'm using DVDStyler 3.1 on Mac OSX.

Here is Mediainfo for my video file i'm using in it:

General
Complete name                            : [12-22-24].mov
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : QuickTime
Codec ID                                 : qt   0000.00 (qt  )
File size                                : 11.2 GiB
Duration                                 : 36 min 26 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 43.9 Mb/s
Frame rate                               : 29.970 FPS
Movie name                               : [Mastered Audio v2] [Final]
Description                              : [Mastered Audio v2] [Final]
Encoded date                             : 2024-12-22 20:27:47 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2024-12-22 21:07:19 UTC
Writing library                          : Apple QuickTime
com.apple.quicktime.keywords             : 
com.apple.quicktime.author               :
com.apple.quicktime.title                :  [Mastered Audio v2] [Final]

Video
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : ProRes
Format version                           : Version 0
Format profile                           : 422
Codec ID                                 : apcn
Duration                                 : 36 min 26 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 41.5 Mb/s
Width                                    : 720 pixels
Clean aperture width                     : 704 pixels
Height                                   : 480 pixels
Clean aperture height                    : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Clean aperture display aspect ratio      : 4:3
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Standard                                 : NTSC
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:2
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 4.008
Stream size                              : 10.6 GiB (95%)
Title                                    : Core Media Video
Writing library                          : Apple
Encoded date                             : 2024-12-22 20:27:47 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2024-12-22 21:07:19 UTC
Color primaries                          : BT.601 NTSC
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.601

Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : lpcm
Duration                                 : 36 min 26 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 2 304 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 24 bits
Stream size                              : 601 MiB (5%)
Title                                    : Core Media Audio
Encoded date                             : 2024-12-22 20:27:47 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2024-12-22 21:07:19 UTC

Other
ID                                       : 3
Type                                     : Time code
Format                                   : QuickTime TC
Duration                                 : 36 min 26 s
Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Time code of first frame                 : 00:00:00;00
Time code of last frame                  : 00:36:26;12
Time code, stripped                      : Yes
Title                                    : Core Media Time Code
Encoded date                             : 2024-12-22 20:27:47 UTC
Tagged date                              : 2024-12-22 21:07:19 UTC

And I will attach screen caps of the settings I have in DVDStyler.


Thanks for any help!!

[7jlong]

Personally I generate a MPEG file first with audio recompressed to my final preferred format for the DVD/project at hand, and then bring that file into DVDSyler to build the disc. I have no experience with the software's compressor - never even tried, might be great - but with the MPEG already written I just match up the formats and bitrates, and have DVDStyler Copy the MPEG without transcoding. Works great.

8 MBit/s also seems a smidge ambitious to me, I try to stay below 7, but others would know best.

[BrainRotTrash]

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7jlong

Personally I generate a MPEG file first with audio recompressed to my final preferred format for the DVD/project at hand, and then bring that file into DVDSyler to build the disc. I have no experience with the software's compressor - never even tried, might be great - but with the MPEG already written I just match up the formats and bitrates, and have DVDStyler Copy the MPEG without transcoding. Works great.

8 MBit/s also seems a smidge ambitious to me, I try to stay below 7, but others would know best.

Thank you for the idea!

I actually got it to work just now by double clicking on the added video in on the bottom of the app (showing after the menu) then I had to select the type of audio in that, and then it worked! I also got PCM audio to work that way on another test. Yay!

If 8 MBit/s will give compatibility problems with peoples DVD players, then I will stick with 7. I just want the quality to be as good as it can be.

[lordsmurf]

DVD-Video specs allow for 10.08 mbps total audio+video in a stream (PCM), while 9.8 mbps for AC3 (or MP2, but not officially supported in NTSC). No DVD player should have issues over 8.0 mbps.

Never let authoring software encode the MPEG. Audio sync errors are typical.

[BrainRotTrash]

Would you suggest that I just export MPEG using Final Cut X/Compressor?

I'm new to this, so I'm not sure, but it looks like audio does not export along with the Compressor MPEG-2 setting, there is a separate "Dolby Digital" output that looks like it outputs AC3 audio, but what do I do if I would like to keep the PCM audio that is included with the master video file?

Sorry for all the questions!

[LightWorker01]

I utilise this software quite a bit, but find some systems have odd bugs, id have random failing on some files when using subtitles on my laptop but not my PC (windows 11 laptop, 10 PC). It uses an implementation of ffmpeg. I actually removed the ffmpeg files it came with and replaced them with the ffmpeg library and now get better results. I never noticed a problem with audio sync on this particular program, but it is generally better to pre-render the MPEG 2 file first to the required standard though this software generally does a good job. As lordsmurf mentioned, the DVD standard allows for video + audio stream up to 10.08mbps total.

I always render at the highest bitrate compliant with the spec I can, often CBR at 8mbps unless I need to fit a load on a disc (I prefer to use Verbatim Azo Single Layer discs for archival and as such, sometimes have to do this). I might be crazy but I like physical keepsakes of memories that I also give away to friends and just bang the higher resolution files on my NAS. None of us have been disappointed with the quality offered. If that is the case, I use XHQ with 2-pass VBR for the best possible quality for a given bitrate.

I go no lower than 4.5mbps VBR for content I am dishing out to friends.

If you are having issues, replace its FFMPEG library in DVDStylers folders and see if that helps you. I know the file sizes were far bigger for the other implementation I used, but with much better results with less random crashing and failing with no explanation as to why.

[lordsmurf]

Compressor is fine, Dolby = AC3

[LightWorker01]

Interestingly enough to add to this post, not sure about MacOS, but on windows 11, be prepared for some drama with this program. I have noticed sometimes, stock DVDStyler will write NOTHING to the temporary directory during rendering on Windows 11 (even with administrator privileges). It will seemingly render in itself fine, but then when it comes to building the log will say no such file or directory and its actually true, nothing was written where it was expected by the program.

Sometimes this occurs with other programs when there is no write permissions, you will see imgburn do this if you say try to write the ISO to your C: drive without privileges, it will then bang it in a temporary directory in your appdata folder but not tell you it has done this as windows somehow makes this process transparent to the program you are using. Then when it goes to read it from whatever directory it expected, it will of course throw an error.

Not come across the issue on Windows 10 with exactly the same version. I use my windows 10 machine for this program for that reason as running it on windows 11 produces so many random bugs/crashes.

I will reconfirm what I say that it is best to render them elsewhere then just import them into dvdstyler, especially if you are on Windows 11 as it's glitchy as heck unless you feed it a pre-rendered compliant file elsewhere.

I use this program a lot as it's freeware and good when it works for simple jobs, and I can say many hours of frustrations, trial and error and poking its log files, be prepared for a technical learning curve to get the best from DVDStyler, as it has many quirks. Another such quirk is not writing files where it should when using VBR but not CBR, no apparent reason or cause, but it will seemingly be doing it fine and take hours to do.

If you have any more issues, the log file can usually be very helpful in saying why. I got the best results on windows 7/10.

DVDStylers last update was Nov 2021, and the lastest MacOS and windows 11 had barely been out for a month at that point.